air filter mod

[Bartso]

hey guys i have put in a injected commodore v8 i am having trouble trying to put a filter box on as it has to be small and i want a snorkle on the end of it as well any ideas here is a pic by the way i have tried a couple of standard filter boxes including the vn commodore and all have been to big
http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_4WD%20Build%20up%20019.jpg

[Brodiebuilt]

This is a long shot but have a look at the Range Rover air box. From memory the inlet, out let and box dimentions look like it may fit.





If it does, RangeRover were built for a usefull purpose. If not it is still a waste of recourses.

[MavTestPilot]

Nice engine swap 8) What about a GQ/Mav diesel precleaner in behind left headlight, running a good filter like a K&N or something. Could use standard snorkel setup, and run flexible hose from precleaner to current filter hose. Not sure if there would be enough airflow for the V8 though.

[Link]

A GU (3.0TD) one might suit if you have space.. Hooks up right next to standard snorkel entry..

[Brodiebuilt]

If you want to try the GQ pre-filter give me a PM and you can have one of the ones that i have laying around the shed

[Bartso]

thanks brodiebuilt but don't think there will be enough air flow might try the 3.0l td patrol though anyone got a pic or dimensions of it i might have to move my coolant resevour but thats ok

[Link]

I thought I had a photo somewhere of the 3TD engine bay but can't dig it up.. I'll take some happy snaps and measurements in daylight if I get a chance/remember and post them up..

[Bartso]

I thought I had a photo somewhere of the 3TD engine bay but can't dig it up.. I'll take some happy snaps and measurements in daylight if I get a chance/remember and post them up..

cheers :ahah:

[BIG GQ]

John if you get stuck I'm sure my brother in-law (DTP Motorsports) will make you a custom job. Custom intercoolers and pipe work etc. is what he does most off. It would be made to full requirements (air flow volume, etc.) and would look sweet to.

Cheers
Linc

PS will get back to you sunday arvo about transporting the cab for you

[embryo]

thanks brodiebuilt but don't think there will be enough air flow

do you think the 5ltr would draw more air than a diesel 4.2?

[Bartso]

i think it would being a V8 i was thinking along the lines of more cylinders more petrol therefore more air needed i could be wrong though

[embryo]

im not 100% but it couldnt be much more air. 5 ltr and 4.2ltr is the capacity so that is close. a pre cleaner would fit perfectly. id be giving it a go first its the easyest option. and shouldnt be to expensive.

[bubs]

having the same problem, trying to find a filter box for my mates patrol with a Toyota 1UZ-FE 4L V8

all the wrecking yards we have been looking in dont have any of the pre filter box as this is what we are looking for, or possible the 2.8T filter box from a GQ?

[ratool]

I REPLACED MY AIR FILTER BOX FROM MY 2.8 DESIEL WITH A GU 3LTR WHICH FITTED IN NICELY.DIDN'T HAVE TO DRILL ANY MORE HOLES IN TO THE BODY AS THE AIRFILTER BOLTS LINED UP TO THE HOLES ALREADY THERE & ONLY HAD TO DO A COUPLE QUICK LITTLE MODS TO THE AIR FILTER.
THE MAIN REASON FOR THE CHANGE WAS IT LOT CHEAPER TO FIT A SNORKEL BY ABOUT 3 OR4 HUNDRED BUCKS, & HELL OF ALOT EASIERTO CHANGE THE AIR FILTER ELIMENT AS WELL. :)

[Bartso]

I REPLACED MY AIR FILTER BOX FROM MY 2.8 DESIEL WITH A GU 3LTR WHICH FITTED IN NICELY.DIDN'T HAVE TO DRILL ANY MORE HOLES IN TO THE BODY AS THE AIRFILTER BOLTS LINED UP TO THE HOLES ALREADY THERE & ONLY HAD TO DO A COUPLE QUICK LITTLE MODS TO THE AIR FILTER.
THE MAIN REASON FOR THE CHANGE WAS IT LOT CHEAPER TO FIT A SNORKEL BY ABOUT 3 OR4 HUNDRED BUCKS, & HELL OF ALOT EASIERTO CHANGE THE AIR FILTER ELIMENT AS WELL. :)
reakon you could put a photo up?

[Bartso]

John if you get stuck I'm sure my brother in-law (DTP Motorsports) will make you a custom job. Custom intercoolers and pipe work etc. is what he does most off. It would be made to full requirements (air flow volume, etc.) and would look sweet to.


hey linc what sort of price are we looking at here

[BigMav]

I watch this thread with great interest as I have similar issues which I am trying to sort out with my mav. I'm thinking of something custom also so maybe we can get a good deal if getting the work done at the same time. Here is a pic, as you can see the air filter box that came with the turbo sits where i need to put a second battery. Don't have a clue what to do but the pre cleaner doesn't even have a filter in it?

http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/redmav/aaa.sized.jpg

[Link]

Pics of the 3.0TD filter box..

http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_144-4420_IMG.JPG

http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_144-4421_IMG.JPG

[Bartso]

hey link are the depths in the gu the same as a GQ i mean at the front there cause that looks like the way to go :also where abouts is the intake will i have to get a snorkle to suit GU or one for a GQ ?

[Link]

Not sure about depths, but ratool sounds like they've thrown one in a GQ so it should be alright.. The intake is in the centre of the box closest the guard.. Not sure about snorkels..

[Bartso]

HAD TO DO A COUPLE QUICK LITTLE MODS TO THE AIR FILTER.
THE MAIN REASON FOR THE CHANGE WAS IT LOT CHEAPER TO FIT A SNORKEL BY ABOUT 3 OR4 HUNDRED BUCKS, & HELL OF ALOT EASIERTO CHANGE THE AIR FILTER ELIMENT AS WELL. :)

What quick little mods did you do and which snorkle did you use

[big red]

the 4.2 GU looks exactly the same as the 3.0 GU filter housing.
From memory the 2.8GU and the 4.2GU use the same finer filter but you had problems with airflow in the GU 4.2 td.
I have a finer filter "vortex" in mine which flows more .
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album50/aad.sized.jpg

[big red]

it even still works fine when it looks like this..
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album50/aab.sized.jpg

[Bartso]

the 4.2 GU looks exactly the same as the 3.0 GU filter housing.
From memory the 2.8GU and the 4.2GU use the same finer filter but you had problems with airflow in the GU 4.2 td.
so are you trying to say that i won't get enough air flow for my 5.0l should i get custom

[Link]

The factiry air intake on my 5.7L box is smaller than the input and output of the GU Filter box.. so doubt you'd have many problems unless you've worked it..

[Bartso]

ok then sounds like im going to go look for a 3.0l td air filter box

[BigMav]

hmmmmm... me too. :lol: I'd still like to see a picture of it in a gq to see how it matches up to the rest of it. I could just go down to the wreckers and take a look though.

[big red]

what i'm saying is if you fit a vortex finer filter you will get better airflow than a standard finer filter

[ratool]

sorry haen't got any pics but i'll try and get one.With the snorkel i just used the standard for the gq .but becouse i used the holes already in the guard for the filter box sat just off the inner guard where it sat against in the gu so i just cut the flat part that sat against the guard so the tubing that comes with the snorkel fits straight on. the snorkel that was used was for a petrol gq.
cheers

[BigMav]

what i'm saying is if you fit a vortex finer filter you will get better airflow than a standard finer filter

Didn't Finer Filter go out of business?? I heard that it did some time ago. :?

[ratool]

another reason for useing the same holes & keeping the box slightly away from the the guard is if don't you won't be able to close the bonnet.so moving it a inch or so away from the guard my bonnet closes nice and snuggly.
I'll post some pis tonight if i get a chance if not i won't get to do it till sunday.
cheers :cheers:

[Bartso]

Well went to wrekers today $220 for GU filter box :shock: so i will save up a bit more importantly i need my to be finished :D

[big red]

$220 :shock:

tell em they're dreamin !!

[Bartso]

i know if im paying that much i would think about getting a custom one made up

[grover]

wy not go to a truck wrecker or try to get a donalson type :idea:

[Bartso]

wy not go to a truck wrecker or try to get a donalson type :idea:
what does a donalson one look like

[grover]

donalson type is like you see on fork lifts , front end loaders ,ect
they are usualy round any thing from 150mm to 300mm wide and 3 to 400mm long and have the inlet in the side and the outlet in the end

[ratool]

220 bucks :shock: what are they on i picked mine up for 50
:idea: shop around or go the donalson
http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_air2.jpg
http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_air3.jpg
http://forum.patrol4x4.com/photos/albums/userpics/normal_air1.jpg

[Bartso]

do you still remember which wrecker you went to?

[Bartso]

hey ratool rang those wreckers at gold coast quoted $165 alot cheaper still i might go through them :)

[Mark Austin]

I have just done the same. I will post some pics when I get home. I have flicked you an email since you have done the same. Thought your might be able to help.

Thanks
Mark

[xltmav]

just mount a donaldson airfilter box to the out side of ya guard:P