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patrolbuddy
17-12-2005, 03:02 PM
Just wondering what would be a lift for 33's to fit comfortably

sim79
17-12-2005, 03:28 PM
3 inch lift

dicki
17-12-2005, 04:10 PM
mate i run only a 2" lift with 33's do touch at times but not much to worrie about

patrolbuddy
17-12-2005, 05:09 PM
Yeah thanx for that. I think mine is slightly higher than standard it has OME coils and shocks and with the 33's on they just miss the rear part of the guard where the mud flap mounts. I've also heard you can move the front axle forward with a spacer, don;t know how this would go

rusty1
17-12-2005, 05:58 PM
I have 33" MTR's with a 2" OME lift, I had to replace the plastic flares with wire reinforced rubber flares and I have fabricated a new bracket to mount the rear mudflaps. The front never rubs, I can occasionally touch the back of the rear wheel arch when the suspension is compressed. The only way a 3" lift will eliminate this is if you extended the bump stops as at the end of the day the suspension can still compress to the bump stop and rub.

I am not worried about the accasional rub, the tyre doesn't get damaged, IMHO the only way to eliminate it completely is a body lift.

Rusty

JemmyBubbles
17-12-2005, 07:42 PM
They will always rub on either your body or chassis at full stuff no amount of lift can cure this only bump stop extensions. I had 33's on 25mm of lift they worked fine.

I now have a 4" lift and 35's and just trimmed the back part of the rear gaurds to allow the tyre to move around during articulation. I am even thinking of going down to a 3" lift.

GQer
17-12-2005, 07:57 PM
G'day,


I'm running 33" Procomp's and have a 3" lift in my GQ tray and have yet to have rubbing anywhere.

:driving:

turbogq
17-12-2005, 08:22 PM
They will always rub on either your body or chassis at full stuff no amount of lift can cure this only bump stop extensions. I had 33's on 25mm of lift they worked fine.

I now have a 4" lift and 35's and just trimmed the back part of the rear gaurds to allow the tyre to move around during articulation. I am even thinking of going down to a 3" lift.


Mate i would be using a 4in lift with 33's. you get full articulation and it does not rub at all.

Happy 4bing :driving:

mabsydney
18-12-2005, 11:42 AM
I got a 3" lift and 25mm offset rims and no scrubbing at all with 285/75 tyres.

I fitted flexi flares at the rear, but still got factory ones on the front.

I've chained the front mudflaps back and took the rear ones off all together.

I don't run any sway bars.

JemmyBubbles
18-12-2005, 08:58 PM
Mate i would be using a 4in lift with 33's. you get full articulation and it does not rub at all.

Happy 4bing :driving:

You're either lying, just don't notice it or aren't getting full uptravel.... I had 4" lift with 33's on Full up travel the wheels WOULD rub on the inside of the wheelarch. It was/is properly setup with adjustable panhard rods, longer 3rds productions lowers and adjustable uppers...

patrolbuddy
18-12-2005, 09:16 PM
I got a 3" lift and 25mm offset rims and no scrubbing at all with 285/75 tyres.

I fitted flexi flares at the rear, but still got factory ones on the front.

I've chained the front mudflaps back and took the rear ones off all together.

I don't run any sway bars.
Hows it handle with the swaybars removed ie on the highway and cornering?

rusty1
18-12-2005, 11:15 PM
No rear sway bars do not make much of difference to the cars road manners, I have tried both and decided to leave mine on for insurance reasons, if you like having insurance, do your homework before any greater lift than 2". Also it is worth noting that 33's are pushing the limit on what is roadworthy without engineering. That is in Victoria anyway.

4x4some
19-12-2005, 08:40 AM
Jeemy B u must have had offset rims for 33's to be hitting wheel arches?? Normal rims wont rub arches even with 33's on stock suspension except for mud flaps. My 33\s ive had on with stock springs and used to rub slightly if highspeed hitting bumps but just a 2'' lift sorted that out.

turbogq
19-12-2005, 07:46 PM
You're either lying, just don't notice it or aren't getting full uptravel.... I had 4" lift with 33's on Full up travel the wheels WOULD rub on the inside of the wheelarch. It was/is properly setup with adjustable panhard rods, longer 3rds productions lowers and adjustable uppers...

Ok well no i only have tough dog adjustables, tough dog shocks, adjustable pan hard rods and 4way rtc. no sway bars. i get no rub at all, maybe you should see what side of yours is rubbing and check to see if your truck is crabbing down the road cause i have no problem with mine
:driving:

JemmyBubbles
19-12-2005, 09:34 PM
I don't think any of you know quite what I mean..... : (

Inner Wheel Arches ie body. On 35's it rubs on Inner wheel arches and chassis. Maybe I am using the wrong words. I am not talking about rubbing on gaurds. I am talking at full articulation you will here a rubbing noise it is the tyre touching the inner wheel arch (or body if you want...) My 33's were on 15 x 8's as are my 35's..

Show me pics..

Turbo GQ it sounds like we have very very similar setups. As I said mine IS setup correctly ie; track centred. And I wasn't being a fool... if yours doesn't rub at all then it is the first I have seen/head of...

jacko
19-12-2005, 10:32 PM
ive go 33/12.5x15 cooper stt on 15x8 LC offset rims 5" mannell extreme kit (adjustable everthing). rear tyres rub a little on inner guard/body under full compression with other side at full extension. also just touch rear edge of rear guard under same conditions (with swaybar disconnects disconnected) - neither does any damage! had 33/10.5x15 BFG ATs on 15x7 nissan offset rims - they touched on inner guard only, at full compression. both sides the same.
would suggest if not touching inner guard/body then u r not getting full flex - ackys SWB mav does same as my patrol.
if your shocks and/or swaybar is limiting the downward travel on the opposite side then your compressed wheel wont be at the same angle as mine therefore it probably wont touch the inner guard - hope that makes sense.
i can post a pic if you want.

im gonna tri adjusting me rear axle a couple of mm forward to stop it touching the rear guard.

cheers

Jacko

patrolbuddy
19-12-2005, 10:46 PM
Thanx everybody that replied

I think the 3 inch coils and shocks will do the trick for a start and then see iif a 2inch body is needed.

If any one has pics of there GQ's i would be very interested for comparison.

Please note with pic lift ie: body, suspension and tyre size?


Thanx in advance:cheers:

vic
20-12-2005, 07:38 AM
33/10.5 r15 bfg 3inch lift no rub and the 10.5 keeps the cops off my back.
cheers .vic

mabsydney
20-12-2005, 08:46 AM
Hows it handle with the swaybars removed ie on the highway and cornering?

It handles fine on the road cornering with in reason, body roll is hardly anymore noticable than with the swaybars. I have big bore tough dog adjustables which help I think.

That said I don't go rally driving in it, if you drive it like a fourby it's fine. If you try to drive it like a race car, you might have some issues!

mabsydney
20-12-2005, 08:48 AM
33/10.5 r15 bfg 3inch lift no rub and the 10.5 keeps the cops off my back.
cheers .vic

Why? technically they are a 33" tyre same as 33x12.5

GQTrav
20-12-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't think any of you know quite what I mean..... : (

Inner Wheel Arches ie body. On 35's it rubs on Inner wheel arches and chassis. Maybe I am using the wrong words. I am not talking about rubbing on gaurds. I am talking at full articulation you will here a rubbing noise it is the tyre touching the inner wheel arch (or body if you want...) My 33's were on 15 x 8's as are my 35's..

Show me pics..

Turbo GQ it sounds like we have very very similar setups. As I said mine IS setup correctly ie; track centred. And I wasn't being a fool... if yours doesn't rub at all then it is the first I have seen/head of...


I agree, i have a 3 inch spring lift and a 2 inch body lift and i can get the tyre's to touch the body just above the chassis in the rear wheel arches at full tuck. It doesn't matter if i run my 35 X 12.5's, my 33 X 12.5's or even the standard 31 X 10.5's, i can get them all to rub. However i could only get the 31's to rub once the rear swaybar fell off

JemmyBubbles
20-12-2005, 07:18 PM
I should also mention I am running around without my rear swaybar. Obviously you could set your sway bar up to prevent rubbing but it would be strain on the mounts etc..

vic
21-12-2005, 03:18 PM
with 12.5 you are an inch closer to your inner gaurd.
Cheers vic