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Old 23-10-2016, 08:16 PM
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I have been talking to an oil manufacturer about what would be the best oil filter for the TD4.2 and he mentioned in his opinion the Mann/Hamell filters are the best followed by AC Delco. They give about three times the flow of Ryco, he said.
What are others running and is it worth the change?

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Just z115 and z416 ryco.
They have a pretty good anti drain valve so pressure comes up quickly at start up.
They're only in there for 5k km. So price is pretty impotant as long as they do the job.
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Just z115 and z416 ryco.
They have a pretty good anti drain valve so pressure comes up quickly at start up.
They're only in there for 5k km. So price is pretty impotant as long as they do the job.
I have an 04 ute, and going by the ryco book it says to use the same, but the threads on the block only suit the Z115s, has anyone come across this before? I thought at first it might have been an older motor in it, but Engine numbers match.
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Nissan couldn't decide which set up they wanted to run. Some, like my'00 td42t, run the bypass and full flow. Others run 2 full flow. Your set up is cheaper to service as the bypass filters are more expensive.
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I run a Z9 and a Z416 on a '96 factory turbo engine.
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Ive got an older TD with the same filter types and just run Z9's. Work a treat and way cheaper than Z115
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I run a Z9 and a Z416 on a '96 factory turbo engine.
Where did u get a 96 factory turbo ?
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Where did u get a 96 factory turbo ?
From a Brisbane wreckers who imports Safari factory turbo engines. Mine was from a '96 GQ
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Ive got an older TD with the same filter types and just run Z9's. Work a treat and way cheaper than Z115
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That would be correct. Youd expect a little difference due to the filter doing its job, just being 15psi would probably mean it would go to bypass as soon as it started to clog up, which would happen a lot sooner as opposed to a "designated filter"
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I'm happy to pay a little extra for the z115 if what is written there is correct.
Given the td42 places a high soot loading on it's oil it makes sense to me that alot of that would end up in the filter and clog it quicker than a petrol motor would.
I'm no expert though.
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Extra flow at what cost though?
Microns and %??

I use the sakura.
I have pulled the motor down a few times now, bearings never show signs of dirty oil scoring or anything..
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That thread was 9 odd years ago and a lot of TD42 owners have been using Z9s since then but there isn't a single case of someone being able to point to a Z9 as the cause of their dead engine.

I buy the Z9 because I also have an EF falcon wagon that uses them. From memory, last oil change on the Falcon was 18,000 kms since the previous one so I'm not too worried about how a Z9 filters..
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Extra flow at what cost though?
Microns and %??

I use the sakura.
I have pulled the motor down a few times now, bearings never show signs of dirty oil scoring or anything..
There's also a thread here on the forum about Sakura filters.
If you believe every negative post here, you really wouldn't know what to buy
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My post was directed to the original poster with the mann hummel and AC delco filters with improved flow.
You can only flow so much through a given area unless you go to a bigger hole in the media

Standard filters wont filter the soot out, I am not overly concerned what I use to be honest, They are cost effective and seem fine to me
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That thread was 9 odd years ago and a lot of TD42 owners have been using Z9s since then but there isn't a single case of someone being able to point to a Z9 as the cause of their dead engine.

I buy the Z9 because I also have an EF falcon wagon that uses them. From memory, last oil change on the Falcon was 18,000 kms since the previous one so I'm not too worried about how a Z9 filters..
It wouldn't cause sudden death that you'd point toward a filter though would it?
It would be more a case of accelerated wear I'd have thought.
Anyway I'm too poor to be taking a risk on filters so I get the 115 which is specced for a td42.
It was a huge leap of faith for me to vary of a 503 so my opinion is just my opinion is all. I'm no mechanic.
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I'm happy to pay a little extra for the z115 if what is written there is correct.
Given the td42 places a high soot loading on it's oil it makes sense to me that alot of that would end up in the filter and clog it quicker than a petrol motor would.
I'm no expert though.
The thread you reference sounds a bit suss to me.

A 4.0L Falcon motor runs fairly good oil pressure too (over 50psi in some conditions) so if the Z9 doesn't allow oil into the filter above 15psi it wont be doing a damn thing on a Falcon either. I call BS and will continue to run the Z9 on the TD.
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Most people seem to be doing 5000 kms oil change intervals anyway so that should cover the sooty oil issue.
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The thread you reference sounds a bit suss to me.

A 4.0L Falcon motor runs fairly good oil pressure too (over 50psi in some conditions) so if the Z9 doesn't allow oil into the filter above 15psi it wont be doing a damn thing on a Falcon either. I call BS and will continue to run the Z9 on the TD.
It's a 15psi differential across the filter as would occur if the filter became clogged with soot.
That's the way I read it anyway.

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i think it opens with a 15psi difference across the filter.
don't forget there may be 50psi on the pump side but you also have 50psi on the other side of the filter due to the oil going through the filter.
its not until the filter clogs that there is enough difference in pressure to open the bypass.
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That would be correct. Youd expect a little difference due to the filter doing its job, just being 15psi would probably mean it would go to bypass as soon as it started to clog up, which would happen a lot sooner as opposed to a "designated filter"
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I run Donaldson filters, i get them for under 8 bucks each.
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I run Donaldson filters, i get them for under 8 bucks each.
I have been using Nissan filters, but my mechanic has recommended Donaldson filters. as a cheaper alternative.

Have you had any issues with them?
And where do you get them for $8.00? that's a touch cheaper than Nissan's $30+.
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