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Old 18-05-2013, 09:52 PM
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Default 650Nm 240kw 3.0l Patrol

Found this on youtube, a GU Patrol with a BMW m57 3.0l turbo diesel engine swap.... saw this engine for sale $3300 on ebay...

What if..?


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would be nice if nissan could get a similar powered motor for there GUs.
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Old 18-05-2013, 10:04 PM
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Get's 10L/100km aswell... My gu is up for an engine swap (tb45 auto) and im now contemplating this seein as it's already been done..

Have some serious research to do.
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Top motor! If or when my TD42 gives up the ghost I would definately be looking at throwing the BMW engine in at that price! Also considering painting my truck that colour too! Good luck with your research! Definately interested in what you find!

The vid is also been previously posted in the YouTube thread!
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Cant view vid at work via link, what should i put in the search to find it easy guys
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Old 18-05-2013, 11:48 PM
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Try this matt..

Nissan Patrol BMW M57 3.0 240KM 650Nm Diesel Power

It's 12 minutes long BTW
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Cool, cheers, the description was all that was needed, for some reason we cant link to youtube, but can use it and search it from itself?
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New wiring harness for the engine $8000
New power steering pump and rack $12000
New rocker cover and gasket $4000

Pull up in any town around australia, and the mechanic will say.... Yeah go to bmw... The nearest one is 12,000km in that direction. But I know a tow truck that can do it for you at only $10 per km.

Those are the thoughts that go through my head when i see European engines....
Ive worked on bmw/merc/opel stuff and the longevity of the product seems to be.... Short.
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FABRYKA 4x4 - SILNIKI BMW 3,0 D
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Reliability worse than a zd30........ theoretically you could drop 2 cylinders and still make more power
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650nm and we get panoramic view of the street, fuel tank being filled and indicator tests
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New wiring harness for the engine $8000
New power steering pump and rack $12000
New rocker cover and gasket $4000

Pull up in any town around australia, and the mechanic will say.... Yeah go to bmw... The nearest one is 12,000km in that direction. But I know a tow truck that can do it for you at only $10 per km.

Those are the thoughts that go through my head when i see European engines....
Ive worked on bmw/merc/opel stuff and the longevity of the product seems to be.... Short.
But this is the case with most engine conversions. Id feel less comfortable taking a duramax for a lap around australia then a Zd30.
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But this is the case with most engine conversions. Id feel less comfortable taking a duramax for a lap around australia then a Zd30.
Agreed, I always had the nervous feeling in the back of my mind when driving my old blown 5.0 gu. Wknd beach warrior was one thing but driving it everyday and let alone taking trips in it was something else..

I can understand Nissan to Nissan conversions but anything else wether it be chev/holden/ford/toyota drive in/out conversions or home jobs just don't sit we'll with me, not bagging anyone's work as There are some **** hot engine conversion specialist out there it's just from my personal experiences and drama mates have had.
Il let slip the 6.2-6.5 V8 diesel as that's about as advanced as a td42 with similar wiring.

I like what DT has said about cost maintenance on these high output BMW engines, imagine you get all the engine up and running for say 20k then blow a power steer pump turning your 35's and in doing that cause the loom to melt.. Another 20k lol
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New wiring harness for the engine $8000
New power steering pump and rack $12000
New rocker cover and gasket $4000

Pull up in any town around australia, and the mechanic will say.... Yeah go to bmw... The nearest one is 12,000km in that direction. But I know a tow truck that can do it for you at only $10 per km.

Those are the thoughts that go through my head when i see European engines....
Ive worked on bmw/merc/opel stuff and the longevity of the product seems to be.... Short.
TD42 for the win

It's a cool conversion but I question the point of doing it.
Pretty much replacing one unreliable engine with another electronic controlled breakdown monster...
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Japanese anything

Euro trash is always more complicated then needs to be
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Interesting the number of jap companies that have folded or have been bailed out... aiwa, sanyo, national, Nissan, mazda, etc. whilst Japanese products may been seen as reliable they are often ugly and boring too. Thank god for Euro trash hey. US trash too.

I have a late model BMW and have has zero issues which is two issues less than my Japanese patrol. Patrol with 200kw Euro diesel... Yes please.


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I think m57 engine is a good conversion for european Patrols.

Remember we don´t have TD42 engines in Europe (well there are a few NA TD42 in UK, Italy and I think Malta but sure not enough for conversion market).

Also it's very rare to find a Cummins or Duramax engines/parts inside EU and importing an engine from the States would cost a lot in customs taxes. In Portugal it would be impossible to mod plate an engine like this and even if you could make it legal we would have to pay the tax difference based in the old and new engine cm3 and CO2 grams. I know in Spain the law is easier and you can do engine conversions but don't know how they get away with EU emission standards.

So what we have in good quantities is bmw, merc and other european brands, we use what we have in stock.

Just to give you a figure, a Patrol conversion to m57 engine can be done for ~5000€, this is drive in drive out with all electrics and re-tune of ecu (no error codes), I would save a few € because I can do all electrics and some of the grind/weld by myself.
If you need a replacement part for the engine there's tons available from wreckers.

Here I've heard of 6 or 7 conversions with bmw engines and only con was a few water problems in electrics (only on competition Y60 Patrols) but it's easy to avoid that, just install ecu inside at higher level and good sealing where needed.


Of course in your country I would think of a Duramax with Allison trans...
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Interesting the number of jap companies that have folded or have been bailed out... aiwa, sanyo, national, Nissan, mazda, etc. whilst Japanese products may been seen as reliable they are often ugly and boring too. Thank god for Euro trash hey. US trash too.

I have a late model BMW and have has zero issues which is two issues less than my Japanese patrol. Patrol with 200kw Euro diesel... Yes please.
Read mate, I said complcated. Not unreliable
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It would be a good conversion. Not a cheap one but a good one.

I drive a patrol that has a engine conversion but i kept it nissan. I have the RB25 motor. Im still sorting out all the little bugs that i can find but im pretty sure its going to be a reliable engine. If it does stuff up there cheap to replace lol. Just sorted out my oil issue the hard way by spinning my bottom end. 1200 buks later new engine :/
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It would be a good conversion. Not a cheap one but a good one.

I drive a patrol that has a engine conversion but i kept it nissan. I have the RB25 motor. Im still sorting out all the little bugs that i can find but im pretty sure its going to be a reliable engine. If it does stuff up there cheap to replace lol. Just sorted out my oil issue the hard way by spinning my bottom end. 1200 buks later new engine :/
All RB's have oil issue's. There is tonnes of info out there to help this, from oil drains from the head to restrictor's in the supply.
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