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Old 18-03-2017, 01:58 PM
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Legends, chasing some rear coil advise please!

Currently my wagon has KING-KDPR-59 / 59SP rear coils. These were matched pretty well to the load I carry when travelling. The problem I have is that the rear left has dropped 30mm compared to the right just over a year after purchase.

My fronts are also 2 years old and one is 15mm lower than the other.

I have an 08 CRD wagon with the following
Steel bar with winch
Dual batteries under bonnet
Steel roof rack which carries 1 oz tent, 2 chairs and 40ltrs diesel
Rear draws
40ltr fridge
Rear Kaymar carrier with twin 33" tyres on steel wheels
3rd battery agm on rear draws
Approx 40ltrs water
Plus foods, beer, tools, spare parts, clothes, cooking utensils etc...

I am not happy with kings and I am planning on replacing with some new 2" dobbo springs and thinking of the following:

Front C45-232 50mm
Rear C45-329 50mm 200kg constant
Rear spring weight too low???

Or

Front C45-232 50mm
Rear C45-105T 45mm 450kg constant extra hd
Issue with the rears being 5mm lower than fronts??

Or

Front C45-232 50mm
Rear (series I,II,III, IV) C45-325T 75mm 250-350kg constant load
Or
Rear (series V) C45-325T 75mm 150-250kg constant load

It's interesting that the catalogue for the rear 75mm could have the same part number but the load rating is different for Series V compared to earlier series!

Thoughts on the combo?

Of note I have the fridge (empty) in the car and one rear draw loaded (tools,spares, recovery etc..)all the time, both spares on the wheel carrier all the time too.

Not interested on airbags either!

I have the boss rear tower brace kit installed


Or I'm leading towards EFS springs in the following combo:

Fronts - NIS-101HHDE (90 to 120kg)
Rears - NIS-114EHDE (constant 600kg)

There is also:
Rears - NIS-114HL3E (constant 300kg, comfort)

Unless there is another variant you'd recommend
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I have efs, no sag, excellent springs.
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I have efs, no sag, excellent springs.
Thanks bud, what weight rating do you have in the back? "Constant 600kg" or "constant 300kg comfort"?

I don't understand the comfort bit on the constant 300kg ones..

i also see OME do a 400kg Constant Spring for $379 a pair...

Decisions decisions....
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Not sure exactly, but 300kg sounds like it. I have permanent drawers and when I hook the van on it barely settles.

They are firm, but compliant. No need for any kind of van stabiliser bars either.

I got them from Smithies Outback, after a lot of discussion about how I use my Patrol.
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Have you contacted or visited any spring suppliers to see what they recommend that's what they're for to help take the guesswork out of it. Also does that vehicle need the coil tower brace with you up grade.
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Any decent supplier should be able to tell you bump stop gap for all of their coils at each max load rating.

I've frigged round for years with different coils.
Get airbags as no coil is perfect.
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I would go with C45-232 & C45-309T.
C45-325T is 3" EHD
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Have you contacted or visited any spring suppliers to see what they recommend that's what they're for to help take the guesswork out of it. Also does that vehicle need the coil tower brace with you up grade.

Living in rural QLD I don't have much choice. My local TJM recommended rear coils which are lighter than what I have now, when I pointed this out they simply printed a page out from their system and said here's what we have, tell us what you want then.

ARB was the same, here's the list of options which ones do you want.

I haven't had much luck in the past talking with "spring suppliers", 3 pairs of kings and 2 pairs of dobinsons on old rigs and was not entirely happy...

Thought I would see if there was anyone on here running similar gear and what springs they were running or going to run
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I would go with C45-232 & C45-309T.
C45-325T is 3" EHD
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C45-309T?? My steel rear bar, two steel wheels with 33" and draws would weigh almost if not more than 250kg wouldn't they? Then add in gear, fill draws up, water, roof rack etc....
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At this stage I think I'm going to go with the 50-110kg old man emu fronts and 400kg constant rears, unless someone has first hand experience/would advise to go EFS over OME?

Thanks to those for their input thus far...
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Give Zordo a call . you have nothing to lose . He offers great advice
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EFS supplies springs to the All 4 Adventure vehicles. They run around only a little bit overloaded

They have had problems with various things but never the suspension that I recall.

Give EFS a call and tell them your loads, etc and see what they recommend.
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EFS supplies springs to the All 4 Adventure vehicles. They run around only a little bit overloaded

They have had problems with various things but never the suspension that I recall.

Give EFS a call and tell them your loads, etc and see what they recommend.


I would, but when you call the number on the website it says "the number has been disconnected!"

Went back to ARB can get the 400kg constant rears until May this year, and that's into Melbourne then would take 1 week or so to get here on a truck... unreal!

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Send zordo a pm on here
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I just rang 1300 337 493.

The number answered and asked for my postcode, after which it transferred me somewhere where the number rang. Didn't wait for it to answer.

Try that.
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I just rang 1300 337 493.

The number answered and asked for my postcode, after which it transferred me somewhere where the number rang. Didn't wait for it to answer.

Try that.
interesting, I tried again and get one ring then "optus wishies to advise that the number has been disconnected"

this aligns with my local guy in town who also tried to phone EFS the other day..
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Call Zordo he sell EFS and others 0418 780 611 OR 07 3351 2692
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Thanks all, I PM'd Zordo and got his opinion. 2" front with 3" rears.

It looks to get the weight spring I want for the rears 2" I would have to go the 400kg OME or 600kg EFS... so for dobbos have to step it up to 3" C45-325T 250-350kg...

I'm currently thinking of the following kit, if I'm going 3" rears, might as well go 3" fronts..I have extended sway bar links and 3" Supior Drooped Radius arms sitting in the shed currently, so would go the kit without the drop boxes and sway bar pins..

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