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Half moon ratchet spanner

Especially for the td42ti where the vacuum pump is in the way. Took me a whole 5 minutes all 4 nuts.
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Local Autospares here. Its sooo handy for this job.
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Local Autospares here. Its sooo handy for this job.


what size are the nuts? 14mm from memory
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lol all good so 3 nuts 12 mm. top two I used a straight ratchet spanner
bottom one I used the half moon ratchet. There are non ratcher moon spanners but I couldnt see the point lol

And the back bracket is 14 mm

so 4 nuts all up.

I scratched a line best as I could on top of pump and against timing case. Used that as a line of reference.

Honestly its sooo quick to do.
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Oh and there isnt much movement so really pay attention to the scratched line.
Literally less than half a centimetre of movement.
put the ratcher spanner back in one of the nuts on the top. closest to you so when you hold the timing pump in place use the spare hand to tighten the one nut or the pump will want to move back to its original position because of the injector lines.
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Legend , Ill look for one 2moz
Hopefully u can buy individually as I dont particularly want to buy a set of them


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Over 60 (not a typo) years ago when I started tinkering with cars, these bent spanners were called "starter" spanners because they were used to get to the bolts/nuts around the cylindrical starter motors
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I noticed now the EGT temp doesnt climb any higher but gets up to the points faster?
Is that normal or am I seeing things lol

acceleration is smoother!

No rattle. No noise.

Perfect cold start.

I have no run on too now. Before my car wanted to run on randomly.
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Half a centimeter, or 5mm is a lot of timing movement. I’m no expert on TD timing adjustment but others may well advise. Usually if you advance a little too much you lose low RPM EGT which causes lag.
Good to see you’re enjoying then improvement though anyhow, might be just right now.
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Half a centimeter, or 5mm is a lot of timing movement. I’m no expert on TD timing adjustment but others may well advise. Usually if you advance a little too much you lose low RPM EGT which causes lag.
Good to see you’re enjoying then improvement though anyhow, might be just right now. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif[/IMG]
I was about to ask, "how much is too much?"
5mm seems a lot. When I was setting up my timing using a dial gauge, it took only the slightest rotation of the pump to result in a significant plunger lift at TDC.
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Yeah it trial and error at home lol. He must’ve been to far retarded to gain smooth improvements across the whole RPM at a 5mm adjustment.
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lol I had a big feeling my car was retarded from day one.
Just didnt have the tool or knowledge .
Even on the stock HT18 and first dyno tune I knew something wasnt right
Especially driving my mates 2001 model TD42t. His one was soooo much smoother.

Then after the ecutalk I found out the TPS was set to 0 voltage too lol

Now it feels so smooth and responsive all the time even before boost!

and no RUN ON! yay
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I was about to ask, "how much is too much?"
5mm seems a lot. When I was setting up my timing using a dial gauge, it took only the slightest rotation of the pump to result in a significant plunger lift at TDC.
Take what I said with a grain of salt lol.
It could of been a few MM and plus my timing was definately retarded
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Half a centimeter, or 5mm is a lot of timing movement. Im no expert on TD timing adjustment but others may well advise. Usually if you advance a little too much you lose low RPM EGT which causes lag.
Good to see youre enjoying then improvement though anyhow, might be just right now.
Just went for a drive just then. It feels sooooooo nice lol

Two dyno tunes prior to this showed lag for boost.
One on the HT18
Other on the Mamba 18g

I knew something wasnt right.

No clack,rattle, run on, cold start is perfect

Is it meant to lower EGT? I noticed I got to 290c a few times around the suburb. Around slight incline etc
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More advance = lower EGT. How much? How much does loose change weigh- every engine is different. The earlier burn will terminate the heat source earlier and the engine will soak up some of the heat that would flare through to the turbo.
The fix... hehe screw more fuel in lol, and there goes your fuel economy.
My 6.5V8 either:
uses 19-21L/HK and goes like a CR500 driving 3000RPM everywhere smoking white in the low RPM not really suburban etiquette (advance and rich fuel);
or uses 14-15”/HK and runs a nice 450-500 EGT up steep climbs @1500RPM in high gear with a little black smoke across whole RPM (retarded as much as possible and lean fuel)
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You’ll notice people on here mentioning their EGT and coolant is a bit high C and they’ll reference playing with the timing to bring it back a little
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More advance = lower EGT. How much? How much does loose change weigh- every engine is different. The earlier burn will terminate the heat source earlier and the engine will soak up some of the heat that would flare through to the turbo.
The fix... hehe screw more fuel in lol, and there goes your fuel economy.
My 6.5V8 either:
uses 19-21L/HK and goes like a CR500 driving 3000RPM everywhere smoking white in the low RPM not really suburban etiquette (advance and rich fuel);
or uses 14-15/HK and runs a nice 450-500 EGT up steep climbs @1500RPM in high gear with a little black smoke across whole RPM (retarded as much as possible and lean fuel)
lol

Thanks BR

Im so jealous you have a 6.5V8. I bet that sounds good too!
I dream of a Duramax everynight lol
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Youll notice people on here mentioning their EGT and coolant is a bit high C and theyll reference playing with the timing to bring it back a little
You are a legend. Yes many times. Thank you.

I was definitely retarded .. Car and not me.

The random run ons when shutting engine off were becoming less random

Now it has totally stopped too.
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This guy sells individual ones for anyone who is interested

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