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2nd row seat belts - From lap to 3 points

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Hello all.

I am considering upgrading the rear lap seatbelts to 3 points. I have a car with the rear cooler, so not so easy. I would like to try to keep the rear cooler and alter the upholstery the least.

Quick questions:

1.- Could anyone be so kind to post me please a few photos showing how the 3-point rear seatbelts are fitted, including where and how the automatic winder is placed?

2.- Does anyone know if the rear 3-point seatbelts are the same as the front ones?

I have seen all previous posts on the forum between 2007 and 2010 but not much clarity.

Best regards
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Hello all.

I am considering upgrading the rear lap seatbelts to 3 points. I have a car with the rear cooler, so not so easy. I would like to try to keep the rear cooler and alter the upholstery the least.

Quick questions:

1.- Could anyone be so kind to post me please a few photos showing how the 3-point rear seatbelts are fitted, including where and how the automatic winder is placed?

2.- Does anyone know if the rear 3-point seatbelts are the same as the front ones?

I have seen all previous posts on the forum between 2007 and 2010 but not much clarity.

Best regards
Does your Patrol have lap only belts in the outer positions as well or is it only the 2nd row centre position? Asking because I’ve never seen lap only belts in the outer positions. All our Y61s came with 3-point belts in the 2nd and 3rd rows, except for the centre 2nd row position.

The last of our AUS vehicles (what we call Series 10) sold in 2016 had a three point belt in the 2nd row centre position. They needed this because there was a regulation change in 2016.

The 2nd row centre seat belt reel is up in the roof which means they have a different headliner. They also only have one a/c vent in the roof for the 3rd row passengers on vehicles with rear a/c, unlike the two vents in the roof for the older vehicles. The belt also has a second buckle which you need to unclip to allow the belt to completely retract into the roof for when you want to fold the seats down. Lastly, there is also significant structural differences (additional reinforcement) in the roof rail area above the LHS C-Pillar to support the mounting of the reel.

The rear outer 2nd row seat belts are different to the fronts as the fronts have pretensioners, which the rears don’t have.

So all in all, with enough time and money anything is possible, but retrofitting seat belts is going to be a lengthy and costly exercise. You’d need new belts, new 2nd row seats, new headliner, new rear a/c ducting and vents, some metalwork in the roof rail and possibly, some metalwork in the C-pillars if you don’t have 3-point belts in the outer positions.
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Does your Patrol have lap only belts in the outer positions as well or is it only the 2nd row centre position? Asking because I’ve never seen lap only belts in the outer positions. All our Y61s came with 3-point belts in the 2nd and 3rd rows, except for the centre 2nd row position.

The last of our AUS vehicles (what we call Series 10) sold in 2016 had a three point belt in the 2nd row centre position. They needed this because there was a regulation change in 2016.

The 2nd row centre seat belt reel is up in the roof which means they have a different headliner. They also only have one a/c vent in the roof for the 3rd row passengers on vehicles with rear a/c, unlike the two vents in the roof for the older vehicles. The belt also has a second buckle which you need to unclip to allow the belt to completely retract into the roof for when you want to fold the seats down. Lastly, there is also significant structural differences (additional reinforcement) in the roof rail area above the LHS C-Pillar to support the mounting of the reel.

The rear outer 2nd row seat belts are different to the fronts as the fronts have pretensioners, which the rears don’t have.

So all in all, with enough time and money anything is possible, but retrofitting seat belts is going to be a lengthy and costly exercise. You’d need new belts, new 2nd row seats, new headliner, new rear a/c ducting and vents, some metalwork in the roof rail and possibly, some metalwork in the C-pillars if you don’t have 3-point belts in the outer positions.
Hello Andrie,
Thanks for your inputs. I suspect you are possibly discussing Y61 instead of Y60?
I had a Y61 before, but now a Y60.
Unlike the Y61, all Y60s with rear AC have 2nd and 3rd rows lap belts only.
I am aware that one needs to modify the liner and maybe the air duct which runs along the B pillar.

I was just asking if Y60’s 3-point seatbelts for front seats are the same as for rear seats, and curios to see where the winder actually goes in 2nd row seats. The reason is, I see a few front seats’ seatbelts for sale from time to time, but for rear seats they seem much rarer and without mentioning the difficulty to find a matching color too….

Cheers,
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Hello Andrie,
Thanks for your inputs. I suspect you are possibly discussing Y61 instead of Y60?
I had a Y61 before, but now a Y60.
Unlike the Y61, all Y60s with rear AC have 2nd and 3rd rows lap belts only.
I am aware that one needs to modify the liner and maybe the air duct which runs along the B pillar.

I was just asking if Y60’s 3-point seatbelts for front seats are the same as for rear seats, and curios to see where the winder actually goes in 2nd row seats. The reason is, I see a few front seats’ seatbelts for sale from time to time, but for rear seats they seem much rarer and without mentioning the difficulty to find a matching color too….

Cheers,
Yeah sorry. I saw “2003 Patrol GU 4.8 Safari” underneath your user name but didn’t check properly.

I’m not sure about GQs but I can say that I have never come across a vehicle that has the same 3-point seat belts front and back.
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Yeah sorry. I saw “2003 Patrol GU 4.8 Safari” underneath your user name but didn’t check properly.

I’m not sure about GQs but I can say that I have never come across a vehicle that has the same 3-point seat belts front and back.
Not at all and thank you for your view and comments any way.
When I have a chance I will post a few photos of the lap belts set up in my GQ just for curiosity. It is pretty basic and prehistoric a set up…

The 4.8 GU was a much modern car in all respects, but the GQ has a bit more charme…

Cheers,
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