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Advice please.
I'm seriously considering putting an auto lokker in the front, yes.....the front!!! of the patrol.
Being a series 4 wth auto hubs, I'm pretty sure I would need to convert to manual hubs.
I have had an auto lokker before, but with manual hubs, so i know what the deal is, which is why i think it would be best to put manual hubs on.
Opinions please. Do i really need to go manual or will the auto hubs be ok??
Also, i see a huuuuge discrepancy in hub conversation kit prices.
What is a realistic kit price if anyone knows.
Cheers.
PLEASE.... dont start the front /rear lokker first arguement.
 

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If you need to do it why not try this first.
 

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thanks Ross. Your a champ as usual.
saved me a few hundred not having to buy hubs.
 
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thanks Ross. Your a champ as usual.
saved me a few hundred not having to buy hubs.
I did the same. Takes no time at all to swap to manual. Just keep a wheel brace in the back of my drivers seat pocket for locking and unlocking (and don’t forget!)

The auto lokka works a charm too. Only done a couple tracks with some thick mud but had no problems at all.
Even better when you lie to your mates and say you don’t run a locker 👍
 

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I put an auto locker in the front of my previous patrol. With the lsd in the back it showed more capability than I had courage. It was awesome.
I also put manual hubs in the same time. There were times when I wanted to use low range speed and not 4wd with a locked front diff!😉
 

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Plenty of guys run auto lockers with auto hubs. I dislike auto lockers but if you are going to run one give it a try with the stock hubs anyway. No harm altering them later.
 

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Sorry for going off topic, but may I ask why? How do they change vehicle handling?
They are designed to lock with acceleration, so if you are accelerating and trying to turn, the steering feels quite heavy and the vehicle will want to keep going straight while you're trying to turn. That's what I found anyway. You eventually learn to drive the vehicle differently to account for it, like foot off accelerator for turning if you can etc.
 
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Ok, I've read through the linked thread and it all seems simple enough.
But I cannot get the spring clip out for love or money, my needle nose pliers kept slipping off so i ground down a pair of slim pliers to semi-needle nose, fits much better, but no luck.
I clamped the hub in the vice inverted so gravity was working with me,
No luck.
The thread says to help it out with a flat blade screwdriver ......where???
With the pliers in there, there is no room for a screwdriver .....
Then i resorted to threats of physical violence and bad language .....
Yep...you guessed it. No help at all.
So what am i missing??( other than 50-60 I.Q. points)
The whole clutch assembly is loose and moves freely, so it's not jammed.
So what gives?? I've been at this for half a day now.......
And yes, i tried poking my tongue out on left and right side.
HEEEEEELP........
 

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Plenty of guys run auto lockers with auto hubs. I dislike auto lockers but if you are going to run one give it a try with the stock hubs anyway. No harm altering them later.
Why is it you dislike auto lockers?
ok got it now.
 

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Ok, I've read through the linked thread and it all seems simple enough.
But I cannot get the spring clip out for love or money, my needle nose pliers kept slipping off so i ground down a pair of slim pliers to semi-needle nose, fits much better, but no luck.
I clamped the hub in the vice inverted so gravity was working with me,
No luck.
The thread says to help it out with a flat blade screwdriver ......where???
With the pliers in there, there is no room for a screwdriver .....
Then i resorted to threats of physical violence and bad language .....
Yep...you guessed it. No help at all.
So what am i missing??( other than 50-60 I.Q. points)
The whole clutch assembly is loose and moves freely, so it's not jammed.
So what gives?? I've been at this for half a day now.......
And yes, i tried poking my tongue out on left and right side.
HEEEEEELP........
There's no need to remove the spring clip, all that will do is separate the actual auto clutch mechanism. There is a press fit ring on the outside which protrudes slightly above the face of the hub and which retains the auto mechanism. Use a spigot bearing puller or pilot bearing puller to pull on the assembly and it will come out fairly easily with the support ring then re-install the support ring.
 

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Aaaahh....thats what i was missing. Thank you Mr enforcer0.
 
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