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Hi Chaps,

I have been looking for a '03 or later GU Patrol with some mods already done and have managed to track one down, looks and drives great but on RACV inspection results there are a few problems.

I'm not too familiar with Patrols so was wanting any info on what the following issues might cost to repair, probably from a local garage not Nissan (or would it be better going to a dealer??)

- broken engine mounts (I was told at least a 4 hour job from RACV)

- rear brake 'shoes' getting low (is this the pads coz seller says they were replaced recently)

- front wheel bearings have movement

- the engine oil is low, a lot of oil around turbo (lack of servicing)

- also the mechanic couldn't get it into low range 4X4, high 4 was fine. Is this an easy problem to fix? Just jammed? The seller said he had never needed to go into full low range

- 2 rear tyres need replacing BFG A/T about $320 each?


It's a tough one because it has the mods I want, body and interior are good condition, it feels good to drive (smooth through the gears, no noticeable noises), but I'm wary about the
3.0L diesel engine. Owner says it has been serviced every 10K kms but no records as his son (who is a diesel mechanic) had done the servicing. Price I think is fair and I would possibly pay it even if I have some servicing and fixing to do, just want to make sure these things won't cost the Earth!

Any advice would be useful before I part with my $$ :eek:

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i would take it to a 4x4 mechanical workshop that knows how to operate a transferr case and get a real report done if u are seriouse about your purchase
rac are a joke and are good for a jump start
 

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Low 4wd should be reasonably easy to shift into... Push down and back...
Oil around the turbo sounds suspicious??? Worn rear tyres, rear pads and a broken engine mount sounds like it's possibly been abused??? I'd be sus on it...
 

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I wouldn't buy any 4WD without a full inspection from a mechanic who specialises in 4WDs. They'll also quote you for the repairs, so you know exactly where you stand and have the written quote to shove in the face of the seller as you haggle over price based on the cost of the outstanding maintenance.

The only value in an RACV inspection on a 4WD IMHO, is the limited warranty they give you for anything they miss. Otherwise I wouldn't trust them to know one end of a 4WD from the other...
 

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i would take it to a 4x4 mechanical workshop that knows how to operate a transferr case and get a real report done if u are seriouse about your purchase
rac are a joke and are good for a jump start
GOOD FOR A JUMP START IS ABOUT IT TOO:lol:
 

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- broken engine mounts (I was told at least a 4 hour job from RACV)
That sounds pretty unusual, especially more than one mount broken. Could be an indication of driving style etc. I've only ever broken an engine mount when off-roading and then that was with a GQ which was notorious for doing that.

- rear brake 'shoes' getting low (is this the pads coz seller says they were replaced recently)
GU Patrols don't have brake shoes, but if the rear pads are truly low, then it sounds like it regularly carries quite a load and an indication of driving style, especially if they have only recently been replaced.

- front wheel bearings have movement
Odd if the mechanic son has been doing good service. Mind you, diesel mechanic doesn't equate to general mechanic.

- the engine oil is low, a lot of oil around turbo (lack of servicing)
Again, a bad sign if an actual diesel mechanic has been servicing the vehicle, but also an indication of possible driving style and overall care for vehicle. You can get some oil around the turbo over time, coming out of the hose.

- also the mechanic couldn't get it into low range 4X4, high 4 was fine. Is this an easy problem to fix? Just jammed? The seller said he had never needed to go into full low range
If low range has never been used, it can at first be difficult to put it into low range.

- 2 rear tyres need replacing BFG A/T about $320 each?
Again a possible indicator of hard driving and carrying heavy loads.

To me it sounds as if the Patrol has been flogged and not looked after all that well, especially doing the right things for sale.

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Ray
 

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How much research have you done on this model? And particularly the era?

Nissan Zd30 Survey Please Read

They are not grenading as often as they used to, but they still are, and the above is only what you see here, in an obscure thread. Type 'grenade' in the search bar.
Also have a look at 'complaints corner'(google).

You should be more than 'wary'.
 

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Sounds like its been offroad a bit. Its quite easy for mud and gunk to work its way on top of the gearbox and clog the spring and sleeve in the selector, making it hard to push down and slide into low range. Just one possibility though.

Wheel bearing are pretty simple to tighten, if they aren't shagged and need replacing.

It pretty much all sounds like lack of maintenance to me, and general wear. It might all be ok If they did change the oil.
 

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Ray has said the points I was going to make, I would be steering clear of it, A vehicle that has a son as a mechanic and had been let slide into this condition is most likely not serviced at regular intervals , as for the "serviced every 10,000km by my son" - line, do not fall for that one, people will say anything to sell something, especially if it cant be proven. If its not documented chances are its not done, bit like the old saying "if its not paid for its not yet sold", I reckon if it is not stamped and written in the service records it was not done, even when I change my own oil I write it in the records.
Look for another vehicle with a more reputable service history, but thats just my advise, you only asked what others thought, the decision has to be made by you.
 

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RACV report IF anything like RACQ report
Wouldnt wipe me bum with em

Even worse IF they are associated with a car yard

Inspected by a specialist 4x4 expert
"Thats priceless advice"

I love the stories
"My sons a mechanic" but look at my POS he services ???
Go get a real inspection done with a price to repair/replace parts estimate
DONT be fooled by mods,most are cheap
But fixing someones POS thats flogged isnt
 

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The rear pads have much less on them than the front for starters. They can also wear a bit faster if the vehicle has been lifted and the proportioning valve has not been adjusted. If they show 1/2 the thickness of the front ones, I would consider that normal.
Oil around the turbo, if it is on the cold side most likely comes from the air intake hose. It is not unusual and does not indicate a problem (same as a bit of oil in the intercooler).
A little play (just a little) in the front bearing is also not unusual.
I would double check that the engine mount is really broken.................considering what the rest of the report says.
Not going into low 4wd could be "operator error". It can be a bit tricky with the pushing down bit.
There is no difference between a "diesel mechanic" and a "standard mechanic" when it comes to changing the oil. In fact, there is little (if any) difference in the maintenance required on the ZD30 diesel and the petrol models.
If you check the engine oil in the ZD30 just a few minutes after stopping the engine, it will show low. There is a lot of oil in the oil cooler and it takes quite a while to drain back (hours, in fact).
If you like it and the price is right... buy it.
 

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Thanks for the responses.

Had a good read through the Survey too, some interesting points and things to look out for.

I'm probably not as much concerned with the low brakes, low tires etc. I know they had done some towing of a trailer, it does have a lift and the proportioning valve may have not been adjusted as you say. With the tires, the front aren't too far off either (it's not like the front have full tread and the back are bald)

Double checked the 'broken' engine mounts and I recall the RACV bloke saying there was just a fair bit of movement on both sides. What would this cost to fix??

Low range too, the seller called back and reckoned he COULD get it into low range, so this may have been due to lack of use...

This seller is the 2nd owner, his family has had it for 3 years and 40K kms, and he says serviced every 10K so thats like every 9 months (not so bad if true). I think I need to try and get in touch with the bloke who owned it before him, who has bought new and taken it around Aus or on a few trips before selling. He had done all the mods as far as I know. diesel mechanic at RACV mentioned the engine performed like there had been a chip installed, but seller didn't seem to know much about anything...
 
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