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Is it a must to feed the out hose from the catch can back in to the fitting on the air intake before the turbo. Or can the outlet just discharge out. I do know that the fitting on the intake must be sealed.

Plus what is the best way to clean the intercooler to remove the oil residue.
 

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As long as the outlet hose goes back into the engine for the fumes to be recombusted you wont have any dramas with RTA,cops etc. If you drive the car for 5 minutes and pull the hose off and witness the amount of fumes that is pumped out, you wont want to plumb it back into the engine.

I (and practically everyone else on here) pulled the induction piping and intercooler off and wash it out with metho... or turps. Make sure its dry when you put it back on.
 

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I tried it for a while on my Chev 6.5

I had oil all over the place where the hose discharged to atmosphere. You'd swear there was a litre of oil lost, but it turned out to only be a very small amount.....but a little oil goes a long way.

You could try plumbing the discharge hose to the inside of your chassis rail....never need to worry about it rusting; but you'll have small oil drips all over the garage floor. :rolleyes::badidea:

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Definatley run the exit pipe back in to the Air Fliter housing. Also note that it will take around 1200klms b4 you start to have bypassed oil in the waste hose

What Filter fitting?
 

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Definatley run the exit pipe back in to the Air Fliter housing. Also note that it will take around 1200klms b4 you start to have bypassed oil in the waste hose

What Filter fitting?
You don't want to do that. It will block the air filter and coat the MAF with oil and crap.
The hose needs to feed back into the engine after the MAF.
 

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Is it a must to feed the out hose from the catch can back in to the fitting on the air intake before the turbo. Or can the outlet just discharge out. I do know that the fitting on the intake must be sealed.

Plus what is the best way to clean the intercooler to remove the oil residue.
I thought the idea of a 'catch can' was to take the oil out. It mustn't be functioning/ serviced often enough, to do the job.
It is illegal to discharge to atmosphere.
Mine is plumbed into the air intake before turbo, after air box.
 

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I've just made my catch can and will fit it when next im home but did have the thought when I was looking at what is required to fit back to the air intake that 'why am i bothering' with this. I understand its illegal to vent directly to atmosphere and think thats fair enough but is there any disadvantage to venting into a catch can and just not connecting it back to the intake?

So it still is 'exposed' to atmosphere but most of the oil should be collected in the can - you can drain this at your regular service intervals, or whatever. This is the purpose of the cans we build anyway, right, to remove the oil from the air? Odds on a cop ever noticing this would be next to 0 and if your car needs to have additional work done with a Govt agency you can just reconnect it.

The disadvantage I've heard bandied about is the loss of the venturi affect helping to suck the crankcase out but given the pressures diesels run at I think they'd be **** all. And then water or moisture ingress backwards into your crankcase when the engine isn't running - to me pretty unlikely but you could address this with a one way valve anyway.

Am i missing something?
 

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It’s definitely better to run the air back through the intake if only for the scavenging effect of the intake’s air velocity. If I had to do it any other way, I‘d run it out through the exhaust with a check valve or vacupan which would do a better job of reducing crankcase pressure.

Apart from a little bit more smoke from the tail pipe, it wouldn’t be noticeable. Any oil would then get burnt in the process. It’s not as environmentally friendly, but I’d do it that way if I didn’t have a cat converter fitted.
 

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Any reason you couldn't go post intercooler? Surely the boost would be less than crank case pressure? (Apologies if it's a dumb question...)
 

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Any reason you couldn't go post intercooler? Surely the boost would be less than crank case pressure? (Apologies if it's a dumb question...)
The boost level is a hell of a lot higher than the crank case pressure.



As for the original poster.
You plumb the hose from the catch can back to the original entry point. Easy.;)
 

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I don't understand why You are afraid to connect the vent hose to the Intake. If most of the oil is separated by the Oil Catch Can, just do it. For more than 50 years auto engine designers do it.
But take my advice: Between the Oil Catch Can and the Intake install transparent hose. Only for month or two. If it gets oily, think again:
1.Better Oil Catch Can.
2.Vent the hose in the air.

Waste a minute to see what You can prevent to enter your Intake. The goal is not extra power, it is to prevent carbon build-up in the manifold.

YouTube - Oil Catch Can Drain
 

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my truck has a fuel filter with a stainless kitchen scrubber in it, the oil collects on the stainless and drops into the fuel filter with a glass bowl so you can tell when to empty it.

I don't run an intercooler and it's plumbed back into the intake 'before' the turbo (can't hurt to give it extra lube).

Bottom middle pic on here http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/508467-post2.html
 

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It is an interesting question regarding environmental reasons for not allowing atmospheric discharge of the oil vapour (this amounts to absolutely fark-all oil vapour carbon content compared to the amount of diesel you are burning) . Technically when you burn the oil vapour it is oxidised and contributes about double the weight of the oil to carbon dioxide. It seems far more environmentally responsible to use a decent oil vapour separator (catch can) and plumb the collected oil back to the sump and vent the air pressure.

The only concern is whether the motor would be better off having crank case gases sucked out by action of the intake creating a slight vacuum before the turbo OR if it is enough to just vent the crank case pressure through a catch can to atmosphere creating as little restriction as possible.

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regarding burning the oil vapour, the problem is more that it sticks to the intake manifold and valves creating a thick black carbon deposit and gradually blocking up your intake, making your vehicle drop in performance and efficiency. Just have to take off an intake manifold to see how blocked they get regardless of if you have an intercooler or not.

The fuel filter and glass bowl idea sounds like a good way to see how much is collecting. Any catch can is better than nothing and although the best catch cans like the Provent do work well, they tend to also block up faster. So whatever works best for your application is the best solution.
 

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It is an interesting question regarding environmental reasons for not allowing atmospheric discharge of the oil vapour (this amounts to absolutely fark-all oil vapour carbon content compared to the amount of diesel you are burning) . Technically when you burn the oil vapour it is oxidised and contributes about double the weight of the oil to carbon dioxide. It seems far more environmentally responsible to use a decent oil vapour separator (catch can) and plumb the collected oil back to the sump and vent the air pressure.

The only concern is whether the motor would be better off having crank case gases sucked out by action of the intake creating a slight vacuum before the turbo OR if it is enough to just vent the crank case pressure through a catch can to atmosphere creating as little restriction as possible.
Good summary... does anyone care to hazard a guess what the crankcase pressure would be at normal operation, say idle and 2500rpm (cruising revs)? Anyone gone to the extreme of hooking up a pressure gauge?

I'm still interested in bypassing the input back into the intake - as Chaz mentioned, it's a sparrows fart on what the exhaust is spewing out and you catch all the 'liquid' oil still. If there was a sufficient pressure differential (crankcase to atmosphere) I can't see the venturi effect being required.
 
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