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after reading the article in issue 157 i am thinking that a 2nd fuel filter might be in order to stop some of the water and **** getting into the pump. with half of Queensland and nsw being flooded over the last couple of months getting some bad fuel could be on the cards. anyone put a 2nd filter on yet? what type is best and where do you get them from?:confused:
 

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Cav type filter will be the go then u can see the water in the glass bowl in them. Most truck shops will sell them same as marine shops and even supercheap sell a ryco cab setup.
 

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If you are worried about getting water in the fuel system, you could fill up using a funnel that catches water before it enters the tank (buy it from marine shops). Or you can install the Cav style water trap in front of the fuel filter that BeNos was refering to like I and others have done on the forum :)

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You can't use any plain old cav filter as they don't flow enough and you will run into problems starting the vehicle etc. You need to get one that is high flow.
 

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How about a "water watch" system?

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about $600 fitted I think.
 

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Those "Mr Funnel" job's that Whitie suggests look the goods!
Anyone using them?
Yeah they do look like a good bit of gear but I think you'd look pretty weird pulling up to a servo and trickle filling through a funnel and then you've got to put it back in the car soaked with diesel.
 

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I wouldn't care less what I 'looked like' if it's going to stop water going into the tank at the source.
The larger ones take high volume, by the spiel. Would help you soon decide who has good fuel.
Think I would find a suitable container for storage.
 

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I wouldn't care less what I 'looked like' if it's going to stop water going into the tank at the source.
The larger ones take high volume, by the spiel. Would help you soon decide who has good fuel.
Think I would find a suitable container for storage.
Good point, if it could be stored in the vehicle without the diesel smell I reckon its a goer. So who's gonna try it out?
 

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To avoid any issues about fuel flow restriction through the CAV type filter, does anyone know if a glass bowl water trap without a filter is available or an option i.e. mounted prior to the Nissan filter. Also what pressure does the fuel line between the tank and the fuel filter operate at?

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just to throw another bombshell into the crd issues... we had a pump let go at a dealership un nammed when i was working there... since there was no stock of pumps in australia we had one come direct from b..... un nammed manufacturer. upon fitting the pump the car wouldnt start. removed the pump and had it sent to an agent for the company of manufacturer located in a large city starting with the word s. so as you would understand its a brand new pump thats been put on a car wich has had the entire fuel system removed and cleaned and fresh fuel and filter put on and has been cranked over a few times.. the verdict on the new pump... RUST , SCORING , "oh it must be fuel contamination" was the report from the specialist. the question i ask is.. if a brand new pump is like this does it not make you wonder about when the other cars that have had maintainance performed at or above the specified intervals in regards to the fuel system have a pump failure and its blamed on contaminated fuel... i smell a case of poor manufacturing... anyone else have an opinion on this.
 

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Either way, I think manufacturers need to lift their game big time! If they are going to sell a vehicle in countries that have poor quality fuel, the filtration system needs to be designed accordingly. I don't see why owners should be penalised for a vehicle's inadequate fuel system when they have little control over the quality of the fuel that goes into the tank.
 

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funnel

I have been using one of those "Mr Funnel" funnels for years on my fussy yacht engine, its amazing to watch the crap it stops from service station diesel.
 

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silly thing is, some overseas versions (not sure about patrol but certainly navara) do come with a dual fuel filter system. but not AU or NZ :(
 

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i fitted a 5 micron secondary fuel filter with glass bowl and my car has only got 1500km on it and the glass bowl has had some floaty bits in it all ready. very cheap insurance i think
 

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yeah thats also a few good points tweak'e , im more a fan of the old style y61 filter.. dislike those sealed ones we have fitted to r51/d40/y61 now. very expensive and dont do the job properly
 

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Hey mate how do you store it in the car? Does it catch much water?
BCF sell them and they really do work. I purchased the 20lpm model and used it when filling the diesel tanks in my boat. Light aircraft owners use them too when refuelling from drums at remote airstrips.

Thought I'd give it a go with the Patrol and fitted an extra piece of hose to reach into the fuel filler. The problems I found were the filling rate was too slow, the nozzle cutoff doesn't work, and there was quite an amount left in the bottom of the funnel which had to be disposed of. Then there's abovementioned problem of the storage and smell in the vehicle.

So all things considered, i think the extra filter or sedimenter option is the way to go, but if filling from suspect fuel sources in the bush definately worth the effort. My 2c's worth.
 
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