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Ok. . . its been coming for a while, but we went for a day-trip down here last Saturday,

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip to Traralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 1.m4v

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip to Traralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 2.m4v

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip toTraralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 3.m4v

Long story short. . . . this week, Chris(the Madman in the white shortie with beadlocks) and i have both bitten the bullet and bought ARB airlockers, i didnt get stuck on the day, and chris drove everything we did, but then got stuck in a campground playing.:D but airlockers will be needed for river crawling in the coming months.

My gripe. . . . Why is ARB so anal about pricing?? both of us would rather give our hard earned to aussies, but ARB have quoted us both $4000 for lockers installed.:eek: and when our mechanic rang ARB, they threatened him if he sold lockers or fitted them under retail to us, they would never sell to him again.

So neither of us bought from them. . . iv got mine coming from the states for $2294 delivered with tyre inflation kit and big compressor and all fittings etc, through justdifferentials.com

why are ARB so high and mighty so they wont do a deal with us younger guys who are shelling out thousands of bucks doing up our 4x4's?? even if ARB had said. . . ok. the USD is killing us at the moment. . the best we can do is $1300ea locker and we will give you a compressor, id have paid the extra! -But NO!:ranting:
 

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I was considering going to our local ARB to see if they'd install the ones from America, but I think that would be the same answer.

I'll just leave them till last. :(
 

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Australians have always been screwed with many products.
Dont bother trying to work out their thinking, youve done the only logical thing available and purchased from the U.S.
Everyone else can only take note.
 

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I thought the lockers would outlast the warranty on them
excellent chance they would

remove your diff centers and take them to a diff specialist and get the lockers fitted that way.


Why are ARB so anal? Cause they can be, its always been the same with their lockers. but in reality is it totally legal to do that?
ACCC - price fixing or some ****?

Only way to save bux is if you know someoen with an account there.
 

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Ok. . . its been coming for a while, but we went for a day-trip down here last Saturday,

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip to Traralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 1.m4v

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip to Traralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 2.m4v

YouTube - Patrol4x4.com day trip toTraralgon Saturday 6th November 2010 Part 3.m4v

Long story short. . . . this week, Chris(the Madman in the white shortie with beadlocks) and i have both bitten the bullet and bought ARB airlockers, i didnt get stuck on the day, and chris drove everything we did, but then got stuck in a campground playing.:D but airlockers will be needed for river crawling in the coming months.

My gripe. . . . Why is ARB so anal about pricing?? both of us would rather give our hard earned to aussies, but ARB have quoted us both $4000 for lockers installed.:eek: and when our mechanic rang ARB, they threatened him if he sold lockers or fitted them under retail to us, they would never sell to him again.

So neither of us bought from them. . . iv got mine coming from the states for $2294 delivered with tyre inflation kit and big compressor and all fittings etc, through justdifferentials.com

why are ARB so high and mighty so they wont do a deal with us younger guys who are shelling out thousands of bucks doing up our 4x4's?? even if ARB had said. . . ok. the USD is killing us at the moment. . the best we can do is $1300ea locker and we will give you a compressor, id have paid the extra! -But NO!:ranting:
Search around different 4x4 stores that sell ARB airlockers, some are cheaper some are simular.

I remember paying $3000+ for both airlockers and compressor but fitted by another 4x4 store.
 

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Andrew will be fitting mine, ill pull my car to bits in the workshop, he will fit the centers and adjust ring-pinion gear, spacings-backlash etc while i play with the compressor and wiring-switches.

he knows what he is doing with that -i don't yet. . . but ill be watching.
 

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My gripe. . . . Why is ARB so anal about pricing?? both of us would rather give our hard earned to aussies, but ARB have quoted us both $4000 for lockers installed.:eek: and when our mechanic rang ARB, they threatened him if he sold lockers or fitted them under retail to us, they would never sell to him again.
You think ARB are the only company who do this? It makes no diff to them what the resellers sell their gear for, they've got their money. They do it so there is a level playing field between all the dealers and there's SFA in it for the dealers anyway but they dont mind undercutting their dealers themselves :roll:
Are you getting the picture?
 

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Can your mechanic get that in writing from ARB? Under Australian consumer laws the wholesaler can set a maximum retail price, but it's against the law to set a minimum price.:cheers:
 

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Class action or ACCC?
 

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Just looked into doing this and was told i would need customs clearances so that would involve a customs agent plus import taxes and gst which all up was going to add around 700 dollars to the bill. Which now makes it 300 dollars more so i think i will just walk into my local arb store backwards with my pants down and fork over the cash :(
 

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Your importing costs can be reduced a couple of ways.

The biggest cost is the import duty and taxes (GST) on the item once it lands here. if you can 'reduce' the value of the shipment, you will obviously pay less. Any imported item has to have a 'commercial invoice' attached with the shipment. This invoice is not an actual invoice that you pay against and does not have to be a copy of your actual invoice. It is basically a statement by the shipper listing the goods contained and their supposed value. Depending on your relationship with the supplier, the commercial invoice could list 'used parts' with a value of $900.

If the supplier is not so co-operative, the other way is to split the shipment up into smaller packages that may pass through under the radar.

Also, request the goods be sent with UPS or FedEx. These guys do all their customs clearances internally so no need for an agent. You will just get a call to pay any outstanding costs. I used to import marine parts from the US via FedEx and if i could keep the listed value below $1000 i vary rarely paid anything at all. The box just turned up, 3 days after being sent. Amazing service....
 

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i had the same problem ARB wanted about 600 bucks more then what it was going to cost me from superior engineering. ended up getting it done through superior. you would think seeing as it is ARB's product they would do it the cheapest.
 

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i would go to the accc and complaine cause the not legal i know i have been there. if your in sydney go to arb wentworthvile they are the best blokes around and very good prices i have recently been there and i was very shocked at how good there prices were.
 

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The good old Australia tax.
We're the lucky country, so obviously we can afford to pay more.
 

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Can your mechanic get that in writing from ARB? Under Australian consumer laws the wholesaler can set a maximum retail price, but it's against the law to set a minimum price.:cheers:
They'll also get nailed under federal Restriction of Trade provisions. Nice try on their part, but they'll get hosed under Federal law, let alone any State based Consumers rights provisions
 

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Your importing costs can be reduced a couple of ways.

The biggest cost is the import duty and taxes (GST) on the item once it lands here. if you can 'reduce' the value of the shipment, you will obviously pay less. Any imported item has to have a 'commercial invoice' attached with the shipment. This invoice is not an actual invoice that you pay against and does not have to be a copy of your actual invoice. It is basically a statement by the shipper listing the goods contained and their supposed value. Depending on your relationship with the supplier, the commercial invoice could list 'used parts' with a value of $900.

If the supplier is not so co-operative, the other way is to split the shipment up into smaller packages that may pass through under the radar.

Also, request the goods be sent with UPS or FedEx. These guys do all their customs clearances internally so no need for an agent. You will just get a call to pay any outstanding costs. I used to import marine parts from the US via FedEx and if i could keep the listed value below $1000 i vary rarely paid anything at all. The box just turned up, 3 days after being sent. Amazing service....
The easiest way is to send the components separately so that they become second hand machinery parts.
 

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Iv already got them coming, they will be shipped separately. . . one airlocker in each case, and air fittings and compressor split between cartons. that way neither box contains anything worth over $1000, which is where tax becomes an issue.

its $395 postage separately, and i dont pay tax, or i can get combined postage at $255 and i have to pay tax on around $1900. that ends up costing more than if i ship separately. . . . genius.;)

Here is a pearler. ARB also tried to tell me that the aussie airlockers are stronger than the ones they ship overseas.:eek:

As if they would make an rd135-rd136 for Australia, and then deliberately make a weaker one to ship to other country's! As if! -they must think im stupid. . . :headwall:
 
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