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I went through a couple of diffs on mine, they're notorious weak. The H series gearbox's are also made from cheese and doesn't take much engine mods before the extra torque starts destroying them too. Only thing I liked was the engines, except the sh1tbox DT! That thing was bloody terrible and even the ones that got rebuilt still didn't last as long as they should. People would spend 10k on engine mods with fancy turbos, pumps, coolers etc and they still barely made 200hp. Where's put those same mods on a turbo HZ or the FT/FTE and it was decent.
 

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I love both cruisers and patrols. My opinion is that it's supply and demand, the older these vehicles get the rarer it is to find good examples. Biggest problem is yes you may get top dollar for your patrol or cruiser but to replace it with another you have to pay an inflated price. Prices are pretty bloody crazy though!!! 40k for a 15 year old 79 workmate with wind down windows no cruise control and 300+k is a bit nuts but people are paying it!!!! I just enjoy the mechanical and driver focussed feel the old patrols and cruisers have compared to modern 4x4s!!!
 

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I went through a couple of diffs on mine, they're notorious weak. The H series gearbox's are also made from cheese and doesn't take much engine mods before the extra torque starts destroying them too. Only thing I liked was the engines, except the sh1tbox DT! That thing was bloody terrible and even the ones that got rebuilt still didn't last as long as they should. People would spend 10k on engine mods with fancy turbos, pumps, coolers etc and they still barely made 200hp. Where's put those same mods on a turbo HZ or the FT/FTE and it was decent.
Front diffs yes. Can't say I've heard many complaints about the H series gearboxes though, nor the 1HD motors (apart from the early bearing issues). I definitely wouldn't push a 1HZ as hard as a 1HD motor.
 

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Front diffs yes. Can't say I've heard many complaints about the H series gearboxes though, nor the 1HD motors (apart from the early bearing issues). I definitely wouldn't push a 1HZ as hard as a 1HD motor.
Just remember there's three types of HD motors. I was referring to the DT, the FT and FTE motors are far superior and don't have the design flaws of the DT. Pretty common these days for people to swap out their DT for a FT/FTE as no one wants them anymore. I even know a few people going from the DT to a turbo HZ and are much happier with the performace and reliability. The H150/H151 boxes have a fragile third gear arrangement which fails often to go along with the terrible syncros and gear changes. The RE4 is a dream to use in comparison with its smoother shifting and is much stronger. I blew two rear diffs and was considering doing a patrol axle swap which is becoming quite popular as it also gets rid of the other weakness with the weak axle/hub studs. I can't think of anything on the cruiser running gear that I'd rather have compared to a patrol.
 

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Just remember there's three types of HD motors. I was referring to the DT, the FT and FTE motors are far superior and don't have the design flaws of the DT. Pretty common these days for people to swap out their DT for a FT/FTE as no one wants them anymore. I even know a few people going from the DT to a turbo HZ and are much happier with the performace and reliability. The H150/H151 boxes have a fragile third gear arrangement which fails often to go along with the terrible syncros and gear changes. The RE4 is a dream to use in comparison with its smoother shifting and is much stronger. I blew two rear diffs and was considering doing a patrol axle swap which is becoming quite popular as it also gets rid of the other weakness with the weak axle/hub studs. I can't think of anything on the cruiser running gear that I'd rather have compared to a patrol.
The difference between 1hd-t and 1hd-ft is only the head, the latter of which has 24 valves rather than 12 valves, and hence more powerful.

1hd-Fte is electronically controlled fuel injection version of 1hd-ft, which is used in later landcruiser 100, hence the "e".

My friend had a 1hd-t, and later on he put a ft head on it.

You can't go too much boost on a 1hz engine even if you put a turbo on it to make it like a 1hd-t. It is not like td42 and td42t, totally different things, being direct injection (1hd-t) and indirect injection(1hz).
 

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The difference between 1hd-t and 1hd-ft is only the head, the latter of which has 24 valves rather than 12 valves, and hence more powerful.

1hd-Fte is electronically controlled fuel injection version of 1hd-ft, which is used in later landcruiser 100, hence the "e".

My friend had a 1hd-t, and later on he put a ft head on it.

You can't go too much boost on a 1hz engine even if you put a turbo on it to make it like a 1hd-t. It is not like td42 and td42t, totally different things, being direct injection (1hd-t) and indirect injection(1hz).
This is totally incorrect, there's so much that's different between the DT and FT than just the head. Take a look at the pistons each use and you'll see very clearly a few of these differences. You'll also see why you can't just simply stick a FT head onto a DT without changing a **** load of other things. I don't have any pics saved on this phone but I'll give you a hint. One has the combustion bowl located centrally in the piston and the other is offset to the side. Good luck injecting your fuel in centrally with a FT head when you're still using DT pistons with offset combustion bowls.

The HZ engine loves boost, boost does not damage them. The thing that damages them is heat from too much fuel, not too much boost.
 

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I saw a 2018 200 series Cruiser for sale in the Toyota car yard at Kedron (Brisbane) for 130K. No idea what mods if any. They were only 95K - 130K when they were new depending on engine and variant features.

However to get a New 300 series Cruiser there is something like a 12 month wait.
 
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Its not just Blandcruisers.
Look up the price for a mini minor or Kombi van
Heaps of unreliable [email protected] you couldn't sell for $500 in the 90's is now pulling north of $30k.
Recently sold my 1981 Suzuki Carry ute for $6k - bought it in the '90s for $800.

let's not get started on "GT-HO" falcons or Tah-rahnahs
 

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Ten years ago I was seriously considering buying an unmolested R34 GT-R that was up for sale for $60k. Thought nah, I want a 4x4 and I鈥檇 rather spend it on a new Y61.

I love my Patrol, but I think I may have made the wrong choice鈥 :oops:
Always wanted a 32 gtr and potentially could have brought one years ago when they were 15k but was too scared of maintenance cost. If only could have seen into the future could have had a hell of alot of fun for a while then made huge profit!!! Hindsight is a bitch
 
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