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hey guys, probly a thread on this somehwere but couldnt manage to type in the write things to find it..

i bought eagle alloys from america that supposebly fit a patrol. there 15x10s on 35's mickeys.

they shake the car like sh.it.. give the worse death wobbles, after spending lots of money on blancing the tire shop showed me that the internal hub size of a patrol is slightly larger than say a landcruiser.. which these rims are most likely designed to fit.. so when i fit them up they actually dont quite fit.. tire shop advised me to grind the inside of the internal hub out a bit so they fit.. i began doing that last night but think they need a little more as they still shake like sh.it.

has anyone had this problem before? i plan on going away for the weekend.. am i putting myself in any danger by grind the internals of them out??

is there too much load on the studs because of this??

suggestions and thoughts greatly appreciated cuz this is issue is so bugging.
 

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The Patrol does require a larger hub hole, but it needs to be done with the proper equipment in my opinion, not by hand. Talk to a wheelright or an engineering shop about getting it done properly.
 

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i began doing that last night but think they need a little more as they still shake like sh.it.
geez, that should be the last thing that you do.

get an engineering shop to do it, they'll measure it up properly and make sure that the centre to bolt measurements are right.

if you're suddenly running oversize wheels then you're caster is going to be out of whack and hence one of your wobble reasons...
 

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nah these tires are old.. i was running them on 15x8 inch steelies.. either way it shouldnt affect the caster only suspension changes effect castor right?

might call an engineering shop next week.. people who fit eagle alloys in australia would machine these out all the time for patrols?
 

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nah these tires are old.. i was running them on 15x8 inch steelies.. either way it shouldnt affect the caster only suspension changes effect castor right?

might call an engineering shop next week.. people who fit eagle alloys in australia would machine these out all the time for patrols?
after they machine them (after measuring) then take it to someone who does an "on vehicle" balance and alignment...

they should be 137.9mm if the studs are the correct pattern. have you measured up the centre hole and compared with your old rims (digital calipers are ideal for accuracy)?
 

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farout, nah i know nothing about digital calipers or on vehilces balanceing i wander who i could get to do that in WA?

i'll check the difference in diameter tonight compared to my old rims. 137.9mm is that centre to centre? im pretty sure the stud pattern is the standard gq pattern.
 

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farout, nah i know nothing about digital calipers
Bunnings is your friend... $25 max, worth their weight in gold as you'll be surprised at how often you use them

or on vehilces balanceing i wander who i could get to do that in WA?
Bob Janes apparently do it, but I've had mine done at a truck wheel alignment specialist

i'll check the difference in diameter tonight compared to my old rims. 137.9mm is that centre to centre? im pretty sure the stud pattern is the standard gq pattern.
stick one on your spare wheel carrier and see if they fit easily...

if they do, then the next issue is the centre diameter and offset issues
 

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All my alloys have needed machining to fit, its usually $15 per rim. I have had Mickey Thompsons and Eagle Alloys
 

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All my alloys have needed machining to fit
I've never had to have any of my alloys machined to fit - certainly not on the falcon GT's etc - and not with my rangies or these trolls - do you mean imported rims?

I had imported rims on one of my GT's and they were a fuss free bolt on.

The mav and the troll are on ROH's, the rangie was on Performance rims...
 

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I've never had to have any of my alloys machined to fit - certainly not on the falcon GT's etc - and not with my rangies or these trolls - do you mean imported rims?
I don't know if its an issue with imported rims only, I just know they all needed machining, its very little 1-2mm.
 

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Ive had to do it with heaps of rims, 10 minutes with a die grinder and a steady hand and your laughing, also some eagle rims have push in centre caps and you cant use them on patrols, aussied delivered eagle rims ive seen always have it on a sticker on the box

cheers sean
 

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well has anybody on hear had eagle alloys or ten inch wide rims with 35s and had problems with shaking? cuz i put them on my brothers patrol which is identical down to the color..(cept mine has superior drop arms and has standard arms)? and they dont shake on his car.... and my car dont shake with his rims on it.. which are 8inch wide steelies.. both with 35" mtzs..

could it be my superior arms? i've just put some new bushes in the pandhard rod.. all bearing are good.. new front draglink.. ball joints in tie rod seem fine.. this is really annoying me..

any more suggestions?
 

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Discussion Starter · #16 · (Edited)
sorry my bad that above post is mine.. was on my brothers account... and i meant to say that HIS front arms are standard gq arms..
 

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(cept mine has superior drop arms and has standard arms)? and they dont shake on his car.... and my car dont shake with his rims on it.. which are 8inch wide steelies.. both with 35" mtzs..
which would seem to indicate that there is a caster difference between his and yours due to the different drop arms....

eg the superiors aren't the problem - it may be the wrong caster setting as a side effect of them... - esp if you haven't had an alignment and balance done since they were put on....
 

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a wheel shop can do a castor check ay? well jareds has castor correction plates.. mine has the dropped arms.. if the correction was too far out why would it only affect my car with the wider rims?
 

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a wheel shop can do a castor check ay? well jareds has castor correction plates.. mine has the dropped arms.. if the correction was too far out why would it only affect my car with the wider rims?
Have you measured the track difference between his and yours?

NFI, but I'm working oin the principle that if both vehicles are not literally identical in their suspension set up, then the wild card starts with whatever is different. That woiuld appear to be the drop arms.

I'd take it to a shop that actually deals with trucks and/or lifted 4wd's and speak to someone who does know what they're on about,
 

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My understanding on imported wheels for the Nissan, is that the local importer will have them set up to fit for you. Nissan Patrols were not sold in the US so the wheels don't fit until you machine them. Have a look at the Fourby's website and they warn that you cannot fit centre caps for the reason of the hubs being bigger. If you import the wheels yourself then it is not done for you.

As for your other problem, there are a few variables like offset as well. But the first thing is to get them to fit the hubs properly, without that you have no idea where things are at. Get them machined and then balanced properly, and see how they are before looking for other problems that may not exist.
 
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