[chrismav]

ESP on any GU's around the world?

Do any GU's have stability control?

Nissan aus have got an exemption for the patrol until November next year to sell them in victoria without esp. But with new laws coming in it will not be possible to sell them past November 2011 in vic or November 2013 nationaly if it cant be developed.

I can see this ending the rummor that they will sell GU's alongside the new model

Obviously if it is already available in other markets there may be a chance it will be fitted to Aus cars so they can continue to be sold. If not there is no way they will develope it for our small market, unfortunately this would be the end of the road for patrols as we know them

 

[PattoGQ]

Interesting...

I guess this would also apply to the 70 series LandCruiser?

 

[chrismav]

As far as I know the new law is only for passenger vehicles/suv's.
While the 70 series is a passenger 4wd/suv, it's based on a commercial platform so the sneaky buggers may get around it that way, or just drop the 4 door wagon
Im trying to look into it further.

 

[chrismav]

Victoria being the nanny state that we are have these rules coming in well before the rest of australia in Jan next year.
My interpretation of this is that no 2011 complianced Toyota 70'series wagons will be sold in Vic next year as they have not got an exemption yet (unless they are fitting esc to them?) Though they could get around by selling stocks of 2010 complianced cars.
From November 2011 there will be no exemptions for new models once the national law comes in.
But GU should be ok until November 2013 under the national law due to being an existing model. No new vehicles after Nov 2013 can be sold without esp regardless if new or old models (death of the GU nationaly?)

From official vic government site.
Vehicle ESC status

Vehicles manufactured on or after 1 January 2011 (i.e. compliance plate is after 1 January 2011) are required to have a compliant system of Electronic Stability Control (ESC).
This ESC requirement applies to:

• Passenger cars - A passenger vehicle having up to nine seating positions, including the driver. This does not include an off-road passenger vehicle or a forward-control passenger vehicle.
• Forward-control passenger vehicles - A passenger vehicle having up to nine seating positions, including the driver, and in which the centre of the steering wheel is in the forward quarter of the vehicle’s total length. This does not include off road passenger vehicles.
• Off-road passenger vehicles - A passenger vehicle having up to nine seating positions, including the driver and being designed with special features for off-road operation.

This ESC requirement does not apply to:

• a motor vehicle that has been registered in another state or a territory of the Commonwealth for one year or more immediately before the motor vehicle is brought into Victoria
• a motor vehicle that is not manufactured or marketed in full volume for normal road use
• a vehicle registered as a Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicle
• a model of motor vehicle that has been declared by VicRoads to be exempt.

For more details, refer to the Road Safety (Vehicles) Regulations 2009.

The table below lists the vehicles that comply with, or are exempt from, the requirement to have a compliant ESC system. This list applies only to those makes and models with a compliance plate after 1 January 2011.


MakeModelVariantESC Status*
Nissan Tiida All Exempt
Nissan Patrol All Exempt
ToyotaYaris1.3L HatchbackExempt

Cheers,
Chris

 

[Foo]

Are they going to mandate for the nut behind the steering wheel to????? ( halfwits in government and there think tanks. )

 

[bloke83]

I think they are also working against their own statistics, how often is there a fourby into fourby crash? If they just made it so every CAR had to have stability control there is half the problem fixed...

The other half is driver training. Machines are going to be "so smart" we wont know what we are trying to handle.

Meh

 

[alki]

ESP is not currently available in Europian market, don't know about Middle East, but I don't think so