[Peterc48]

On Sarurday I completed the Sand driving part of the 4WD Driver Training Course with my Club, (Nissan Patrol 4WD Club of ACT & NSW), was a great day up @ Stockton Beach & the sand dunes.

My vehicle went very well, right @ the end of the day, The Radator hose sprung a leak, the reason, Nissan use a Cable tie towards the bottom of the hose to hold it in place, so that the hose is held away from the AirCon pully.

Without that cable tie holding the hose back, it comes in contact with the pully, thus it cuts into the hose. I was able to do a quick fix with some "rescue Tape" to get me home.

2 points to come out of this, 1) I replaced the hose & cut 2 tenths of an inch off the bottom for a better fit, which increases the gap between the hose & AirCon Pully.
2) I have read the manual, no where does it give any info about this problem. Nissan need to look @ fixing this, using a 25 cent cable tie could end up costing huge dollars to be recovered if your in the outback.

I'll call Nissan Australia in the morning.

Peter

 

[Nizzbits]

On Sarurday I completed the Sand driving part of the 4WD Driver Training Course with my Club, (Nissan Patrol 4WD Club of ACT & NSW), was a great day up @ Stockton Beach & the sand dunes.

My vehicle went very well, right @ the end of the day, The Radator hose sprung a leak, the reason, Nissan use a Cable tie towards the bottom of the hose to hold it in place, so that the hose is held away from the AirCon pully.

Without that cable tie holding the hose back, it comes in contact with the pully, thus it cuts into the hose. I was able to do a quick fix with some "rescue Tape" to get me home.

2 points to come out of this, 1) I replaced the hose & cut 2 tenths of an inch off the bottom for a better fit, which increases the gap between the hose & AirCon Pully.
2) I have read the manual, no where does it give any info about this problem. Nissan need to look @ fixing this, using a 25 cent cable tie could end up costing huge dollars to be recovered if your in the outback.

I'll call Nissan Australia in the morning.

Peter

I think you will find that is not an original piece of equipment. I have never seen Nissan (or anyone else) use a cable tie to "HOLD" a radiator hose in place. Before you go ringing Nissan (Not sure what you want to achieve there) I would see if anyone else with a 99 4.2 has a cable tie holding the radiator hose in place. I don't think you will fidn anyone with that.

 

[paul.helm]

There is a cable tie type device on my 3ltr as well, Its not a cable tie , but similar and have had no issues with mine ever. Is it possible that it has a different shroud on it? as I can not see the cable tie device for the 4.2ltr in the service manual.

 

[azza4.2td]

I can have a look at mine when I get home tonight. But I don't remember any cable tie holding any radiator hose. I'm assuming you are talking about the top radiator hose?

 

[bennoGU28]

This is farkin hillarious !

I can just imagine the nissan hq switch bitch rolling thier eyes and doodling on a notepad whilst taking your call.

Its the best part of 12 years old and you may use it in a desert/outback if you want, Nissan is not forcing to you too.

I cant believe your actually serious about calling Nissan, unless your one of these new age numpties who think that a company is responsible for possibly anything that could ever conceivably be done too or happen to a product regardless of when it was originally sold. Refer to the alloy wheel thread for such examples.

 

[MQ MAD]

Good very valid point Benno

I had to cut a smidge of my bottom rad hoses on the GQ ,for a bit better fitup,you would say

HMM,
Lets spend a gazziliion dollars on R+D,then use a zip/cable tie

 

[Peterc48]

Its a Clip of some kind

I ordered the part today from a dealer, you'll see the part number and where it belongs. It fits onto the shroud and then onto the hose, its a $5 part. I'll see what it is like when I get it.

As for calling Nissan, they were interested, nothing may happen, but if you don't ask Nothing ever will, will it

 

[farmerjohn]

As an aside to this discussion the guys who did my radiator clean out a couple of years ago did not correctly relocate the pegs on the bottom of the radiator into their grommets. The result was that the clearance between the hose and the aircon pully was insufficient and when the engine was loaded heavily the pulley would contact the hose. It would be worth checking PeterC as when fitted properly contact would be close to impossible even with the offending plastic clip removed.
Cheers

 

[jace75]

i agree benno
nissan should warrent the car for the life of it no matter what mods you or previous owners have completed.
just because it is 12 years old and has done 400000 k's means nothing and im sure that the nissan hq would just be waiting for complaints about their design of a dinosaur.


i am actually thinking i may go and buy a MQ and if i winge enough about the poor performance that they may offer to replace it with a new one or at least offer to repair it!

 

[azza4.2td]

Had a look at mine and it doesn't have the hose holder at the bottom, although I do see the hole it would go in on the shroud. But looking at mine there is like 3/4 to an inch between the hose and pulley and there is no damage on the hose.

Looking at my radiator, it looks like the previous owner replaced the radiator (or the header tanks at least as they have an Adrad sticker on them... bonus ) Anyway, they probably replaced the hoses and being new they haven't sagged. I'd say once well used they may sag and perhaps contact the pulley.

Something to keep an eye on at least.

Cheers

 

[RedBull]

I love people who use coloured typing to make a point

 

[Peterc48]

@ jace - yes thats a good point, an MQ would be better than a 2.8, let us know how you like it

 

[Iron Horse]

Peter , does your vehicle actually have a zip tie holding the hose back or did you just call the plastic retaining clip the wrong thing ?

I would advise you to grease the slip joint in the rear tail shaft as it may be tight and forcing your engine forward when you go over a bump . This would seem logical as to why it did what it did while you were playing in the dunes .

 

[Nizzbits]

As for calling Nissan, they were interested,
I think there might be a difference between some agency clown (thats who works in customer service these days) listing to your story and nissan being "interested".

nothing may happen, but if you don't ask Nothing ever will, will it

Not sure what you want to "happen" but seeing the vehicle/engine combo has been out of production for a year or two I reckon it is a pretty safe bet nothing may happen.

 

[Tracteur Tom]

This thread must be up for the Numpty award of the week !

I think I'll give Nissan a call and see if they'll warranty my engine conversion. You never know, they may just listen and not give any comments, so as not to upset me too much !

 

[Peterc48]

It is in fact only a cable tie. And was told by Nissan that mine is the only model that has one.

 

[Iron Horse]

You were right calling it a cable tie , I would call it that myself .

Other models must have the plastic retaining clip you posted .

I don't know why they didn't just mold the hose with a bit of a kink in it for clearance .

 

[Peterc48]

I have had another e-mail from Nissan, I told them that as well, thanks Iron Horse, now see what they say :!: