[Dazza MQ]

Hi every one, Thort I start my own build up post for you to look at. After doing heaps of serching with the much needed help from you guys i`ve got a doner ef falcon for the motor & computer & wirering loom , my be the exsort to.

My patrol has had some of its loom burned & fussed together from the last owner by the looks wiring the alternator wrong. So aswell as having to wirer the ECU in I will have to wire the lights, blinkers, ford relays for the fuil pump, alternator.
Part of the MK`s dash is also fused .

Owell i`ll just have to use more of the Ford wirering than i had exspected so hope you enjoy whatching as i go .
here are some pics for you to see where i am at.

This is my Baby project.

THE Dash out of the falcon.

Have to take the fords hole engine bay loom as mine is fryed Hahaha. EF loom also run in the iner gards bugga relly have to strip the ford down now .

 

[stokedapollo]

what box you running behind it

 

[Dazza MQ]

The one that the P40 motor uses 5 speeder

 

[elmo72j]

Dazza, You will need the BCM and the ignition barrel as well if you dont plan on bypassing the smartlock system that the Ford runs. Depending on how much of the Ford harness you plan on using the headlights, blinkers etc go through the BCM as well. It's not a hard job just time consuming to do it all.
Johno.

 

[Dazza MQ]

I plan on keeping the BCM as it also controls the cruse control to. but there is smart lock mudule to generate the code of the key barral. Did not know it allso ran the lighting circut to , OH it runs the time for the interior light time to off and auto turn off of head lights all intermitance of the wippers too.

Or i could use this one from ti Performance but you need to put it on the bottom of the computer and regency say my computer must not be modifyed . but i do like this one more as it dos so much more than stop the smart lock its a true performance in handsment .
Its bad when you find a good part but you cant use it cos of the rule you have to go by.

 

[Dazza MQ]

Hear are some links i been in organising my parts for this build.

Welcome to Dellow Conversions
Home - T.I. Performance
www.shiftkits.com.au
www.rodshop.com.au

Maybe i should find a new name for my MK like this man has . the build he has done on his MQ is so good wow what workman ship.

Australian 4WD Action | Forum - View topic - Building my Nisota

 

[neRok]

your broken link Australian 4WD Action | Forum - Login

you could call yours a Maverick?!

 

[MQ MAD]

Dazza,
So far so good hey
Be good to find out whats required for this conversion and the costs
Do you need to run cats ect ???
Why not use the complete harness from the falcon
Door lights,interior,taillight ect ect
Would save some hassles
A name for thoughts,

Nisrd,
After a few beer itll sound like your saying Nissan

 

[GQ TANK]

I agree use the complete loom.


Power windows, smart lock, cruise control, trip computer etc

 

[Dazza MQ]

Before i wright more i say sorry for my spelling now.:crazy:

Yea im thinking that the hole loom would be easyer, as i have already done the hardes part. That dash was such a B**** to get out.
The only thing im worried about is the airbag control module .
when i get the ford key barall off the stearing wheel ill see if it fits the nissans steering colum.
There not much to the patols loom any way.
MMMM wonder if i can fit the fords dash in , note to self, try
it. hahaha What have i got to lose NUTHING.:bananaro:
NeRok
If i call Me MK a Maverick?! it will be a true Maverick with a ford engine.

MQ MAD
yea i have to uses the cat it has to comply with the polluion laws and as ford had made it .
Thinking of using the one in the Ef, as mufflers are ner brand new.

I got a Quote to do the hole lot from a place, cost was $750. thats the cat pipes mufflers X 3 .Thort that was pritty good price and they will make it to comply with Regency standards. No mucking around for me.


Nisrd , mmmmmmmm i dont know about this one.

 

[Dazza MQ]

Thort i may add this to to help you all out . Seeing that MAD MQ would like the costing as i go plus this will help me to.

the Dellows kit is $1200.00 plus shipping to you . This is for the EF motor .
It includes
bellhousing & pivot ball
pilot bush,
thust race & carrier
Clutch Fork
Cluch plate 10 inch
Cluch push rod
engine mounts brackets
Engine mount rubbers

now i have to get my own fly wheel & pressuser plate, price not know as yet.
The bell housing will use the fords starter motor & the MK`s hydrulic cluch .

At this point in time there closed for chrismas and will be back on the 11 of February thats when im will be ordering my kit in the mean time im im rewire my mk to a new loom as the bloke i got the MK off put a new autonator on with an interal regulator and burned half the loom.


The Ef i got cost me $700 and its a auto they wanted to much for the manual ones .but i guss the flywheel and pressure plate wont be to much to buy.

 

[MQ MAD]

I doubt the falcon steering lock will fit the nissan
Maybe look at adapting or fitting the falcon coloumn,cant be that hard
EF Falcon dash in a patrol,thats something different
Once you strip the patrol dash back to the firewall im sure it doable
Use your cats and mufflers and just get the pipe work made to suit the nissan as the pipe work will be different as the floor pans will be different
Whats the go with the fuel pumps and tanks ect
Can u just by pass this with say a holley blue/red fuel pump (or another electric pump) with a return line,dont forget the filler neck must only be the smaller (unleaded style)
Again this wont be hard to adapt to the nissan
Good luck

 

[Dazza MQ]

My Mk has a long rang tank in its belly and it already has a return line on it as was on LPG before. The fords fuil pump is in the tank and pumps at 300kpa . I have to go to a gas fiting place to have the old gas tank removed and inspceted as it is out of date.

Thats a good one to use holley blue/red fuel pump this way i dont have to drop the fuel tank to put the ford pump in . As for the restrictor for the fuller neck still thinking on that one . the fords tank is plastic with the metal restrictor in it. still have to drop it anyway to hook up the wire and pollutsion pipes dam.

Sorry i ment the intrument cluster the EF dash is to rounded and to big to fit. I know the speedo is eletric so will have to get a module for the gearbox or adapt the ford one from a manual box or the auto 4 seed i have.

The steering colum on the patrol is straight though plus i dont want the air bag thats on the fords steering wheel. the MK and EF barrals seem to sit in the same posion will see when i pull it out .

 

[mr.slow]

Use a filler neck out of GQ/U should fit

 

[Bidgee Man]

Hi,

A mates dad put the later ( EF EL ) dual inlet system on an EB using the later computer, a mob in Melbourne make a module to bypass the ignition switch thing. The EL didnt use a dizzy, it had a crank angle sensor. They gave some issues so the EL went back to a dizzy. You may be able to fit a breakerless ignition dizzy, and run a carb like a Weber. No computers to worry about. Wont run as well though.

Regards B M

 

[neRok]

ive seen a complete VN dash fitted. i also trial fitted a spare VN i had lying around and it looked fairly eash to fit.

with the fuel pump, ive been facing the same issue in planning mine. if you dont use a fuel tank with a high pressure internal pump (ie the stock ford tank) then you will have to run a system with a surge tank. from the surge tank you can feed the engine with a cheaper external pump, such as a walbro (vn v8 series1 actually have an external pump you could use, i think maybe VL as well) . they handle healthy v8, so should do your 6 no worries. this is what ive done. but getting the fuel to surge tank is the problem. there are some small cheap pumps that could be mounted on top of or next to the fuel tank, such as the facet pump (search ebay). but they dont suck very good, so really need to be mounted lower than the tank (gravity fed). but i dont think its a good idea running such a critical component under a 4wd, so personally im using a mechanical fuel pump to supply the surge tank. alternatively, you could use a holley red. searching ebay you can also find similar walbro units, they are advertised more often as marine fuel pumps, but they will do the job (suck the fuel and move it around at low pressure).

 

[mr.slow]

Use a Gq efi tank or convert to straight LPG no computer and no surging up hills.

Nerok those pics are pretty sweet I'd like to read more have you got a link to the job? Was it mq/k I assume it was left 2wd as I couldn't see transfuse shifter......

 

[tj81]

Hi,

A mates dad put the later ( EF EL ) dual inlet system on an EB using the later computer, a mob in Melbourne make a module to bypass the ignition switch thing. The EL didnt use a dizzy, it had a crank angle sensor. They gave some issues so the EL went back to a dizzy. You may be able to fit a breakerless ignition dizzy, and run a carb like a Weber. No computers to worry about. Wont run as well though.

Regards B M

My understanding from fitting an EL engine into an EB2, was that the EF had coil packs, and the EL went back to a dizzy, i think thats what you meant (typed EL instead of EF)

In anycase if your using the ECU from the EF, along with all the wiring, there shouldnt be too much of an issue. ( dont envy you removing the wiring loom though)

The Broadband Manifold has tuned runners as suggested, there is an rpm switch that the E-Series boys use to switch it without using the std ECU ( jaycar kit from memory)

The smartlock bypass definately works, and in most cases is cheaper than finding replacement smartlock module when they die. (one that works that is)

My only concern with the whole thing is the BCM or Body Control Module, so using the smartlock bypass as suggested will sort that out most likely.

From a quick look the falcon is not a fairmont or anything like that so you wont need to worry about the headlight switch with variable dimmer, and or the higher end electrics like that.

Definately a worthwhile project, ive fitted various EL to AU motors in EA and EB falcons, all went relatively smoothly. ( Current daily is an EB2 S with an EL XR6 engine)

Have Fun !

 

[MQ MAD]

Using the later GQ stuff sounds feasable ,you would have to check if the tanks are the same bolt pattern on the chassis (minor detail)
The L28s have electric fuel pumps and pump enuf for a screaming L28,so maybe this could help

As suggested straight LPG no computer ? better of road and will by pass all the emmission requirements as well

 

[elmo72j]

The L28 pump is more than enough to feed a surge tank. It's working well on my 5ltr EF in the MQ. The LWB has 2 feeding pumps down on the chassis near the front of the drivers rear spring, I took 1 out and feed a surge tank that I mounted near the brake booster in the engine bay with a suited pump for the EFI. The long range tank that is also in the vehicle is pumped straight into the main tank.
I have looked at a EFI GQ tank as I am looking into upgrading as they hold somewhere around 95 ltrs but I am pretty sure the bolt pattern is different.
Johno.