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HELP: GU not sitting level

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After reading a bunch on the forum I still can't seem to get my head around this issue (I have a feeling I know what the issue may be).

For context, I'm in the process of getting a roady done in Vic (easy I know) and one of the issues (and the last step to roady condition) that needed to be sorted out was the Patrol not sitting level. To be fair, it rocked like a boat when you pushed down on it so the shocks were gone.

Below are the measurements the roady man gave me;

LH Front 560 mm RH Front 520 mm
LH Rear 560 mm RH Rear 520 mm

Front Difference: 40mm (RH Lean)
Rear Difference: 40mm (RH Lean)
LH Difference: 0mm (Level)
RH Difference: 0mm (Level)

I found a clean (used) set of 2" Lift OME shocks and springs so I've taken that to Pedders to get installed. Got it back today but ride height is even worse. These are the new measurements;

LH Front 590 (+30) mm RH Front 560 (+40) mm
LH Rear 630 (+70) mm RH Rear 600 (+80) mm

Front Difference: 30mm (RH Lean)
Rear Difference: 30mm (RH Lean)
LH Difference: 40mm (Front Lean)
RH Difference: 40mm (Front Lean)

Reckon the springs are just gone with this kit? Looking at the differences could it just be a matter of getting a longer spring in the RH Front so the LH Rear drops?

TIA

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Are you sure pedders put the spring in the right side?. Drivers side springs are slightly longer to account for battery and sub fuel tank.
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Are you sure pedders put the spring in the right side?. Drivers side springs are slightly longer to account for battery and sub fuel tank.
I considered that but I mean these guys install springs for a living. When you look at how much higher the right side raised raised vs the left - the RH (drivers) side raised 10mm more than the left did overall.

Unless I'm missing something with how it would all balance out?

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Swap the springs left to right and see what happens. If it leans the other way you know the springs are dodgy. If not, you have a bigger issue somewhere else.

Have you checked your body mounts? Ride height is measured from the wheel centre to the point on the wheel arch opening directly above the wheel centre, which is on the body. The springs are between the axle and frame, so they don’t account for any variation between the frame and the body. That’s all in the body mounts.
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Will definitely ask them to give that a shot before they attempt to put some of their springs in - one thing with the springs in there right now is that it's clear that the RH Rear springs are binding about 3 coils, whereas the LH Rear is barely binding the first two.

I did get them to check the mounts (towers) and there's definitely no drop or sag there.

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The left to right lean is definitely not normal. Before you go back you might be able to stick your head under and see the markings on the springs, which should help identify which one should be left and right. I have OME 2" springs in mine and had to shim some left to right lean out, but it was 10-15mm max. The front to back lean is only a few mm more than mine with 2" OME springs. I don't like this lean and will be changing to another brand springs at some stage.
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The left to right lean is definitely not normal. Before you go back you might be able to stick your head under and see the markings on the springs, which should help identify which one should be left and right. I have OME 2" springs in mine and had to shim some left to right lean out, but it was 10-15mm max. The front to back lean is only a few mm more than mine with 2" OME springs. I don't like this lean and will be changing to another brand springs at some stage.
I have called up Pedders and they've definitely checked the drivers and passenger springs are on the correct sides. Drivers side was definitely longer and installed on Driver's side - they suspect that the RH Rear spring that's coil binding much more than the RH left is probably the culprit.

Taking it in on Monday again and they're gonna play around a bit with the springs.

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Ive had pedders put their own springs (complete with tags still on) arse about on a patrol, so my faith in them would be pretty low.
The leaning to the RHS is pretty normal. To correct mine I just put a coil spacer in under the lowest spring (for me was rear RHS). Hving said all that, I had my front springs replaced and they didn't need any sort of spacer into the front right.
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