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Gday all, i am after some help with chosing a GU i am looking at spending around the 20 mark and have seen a lot of 1998 2003 patrols for around that price. The question i have is what should i steer away from as i have heard so many storys about the ZD30's failing, so far i have seen a couple of nice 2002 - 2003 patrols but am !*it scared about buying one due to the hole shadow casted over these motors. Tomorrow i will be looking at a 2003 3.0l st with 212000 k's dual batt, snorkel, bullbar, spotties 1 owner it looks real tidy they want 20 but might be able to get it down a little. Im looking at setting it up as a good tourer that will eventually tow a camper trailer later on. Ok enough baffling on the year and k's of the car i will be looking at tomorrow should that be fine?

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Ian, Research these forums is going to help you make your decision.

Personally I am a 4.2td man and I dont know enough about the 3ltr to help other than to say I have read all the bad things about them like you.

However, from what I have glanced at on these forums it appears as though with a few modifications there are plenty of happy 3ltr owners with high kilometres.

So start searching the forums mate all your answers are in here somewhere.
 

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if you want a reasonably cheap GU go the 2.8.
easily modded but are a little older then 2002.
Ive got a 1998 GU 2.8, haven't had any regrets with buying it. Picked it up for less then 16 K with 180 000 on the clock.
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if you want a reasonably cheap GU go the 2.8.
easily modded but are a little older then 2002.
Ive got a 1998 GU 2.8, haven't had any regrets with buying it. Picked it up for less then 16 K with 180 000 on the clock.
My 2 cents.


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Value for money go an earlier 2.8tdi in good condition and that you feel drives okay in terms of taking off. If it takes off okay, then you will be able to improve that by double. If under 2k revs it hardly takes off even in 1st gear, don't touch it.

4.2td is a basic tough old reliable truck motor and in a patrol is very good. Will cost you more and may not be necessary for your needs. You will see 3 litres for sale everywhere so you will have lots of choices for them. I don't like the earlier ones but if you have a bit more to spend the later 3Ltr CRD models are a very nice sweet rig!! ;) i think if you go 03 + in a 3ltr you should be fine, just look after it well. As for 200k + kms it all depends on the vehicles past life and treatment. Always a small risk you take ;)

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If under 2k revs it hardly takes off even in 1st gear, don't touch it.
Sorry to hijack your thread GQTrol, But what causes this Monsta GU? Mine has started getting a bit slower to take off :/

Next Patrol I buy will be a 4.2 TD because of the reliability and power, Ive had too many problems with my 2.8, which is not to say they're a great motor, but they definitely need to be pampered and looked after alot.
 

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Many years ago when i was looking to buy my first patrol i found a 2.8td cheap at auctions, it looked really good and tidy. It had 250k on the clock so i took it for a test drive. When i pulled out of the driveway to take off, it was so bad that a car was coming a fair way away and almost hit me. I finally got it going but under 2k revs it just died and had no boost at all.

Once you got it going like 3k revs + it was fine. The salesman told me thats the 2.8,s for you, that is how it is bla bla hope you don't have towing in mind bla bla... I said i doubt thats how it is, either the engine is tired or the turbo is on its way out. It can sometimes be just a small problem easy to fix but i would not risk it.

Anyways, i found another one with 190k and bought that. It went really well. Then i did the usual mods to it and it was awesome!! "GQTroll" l Would recommend a well running 2.8td for bang for buck still. ;) "Fazza'90" Whats your boost pressure?
 

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Love my 2.8. got the usual mods and it goes really well. the best mod is a 3" mandrel bent exhaust with no muffler. next is a lift pump. highly recommend the 2.8. in saying that I'm contemplating a rb30 turbo conversion. just for the price of repairs.

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cheers for all the feedback guys i have my eyes on a 2004 series 3 will let ya all know what the outcome is and post up pics of my new ride when i get one.
 

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What sorta problems have you had Fazza?? :cool:
Nothing too drastic, Injectors, glow plugs and relay, 1st gear smashed, alot of regular stuff that i'd expect to replace, but at the moment I cannot figure out what the problem is, its absolutely gutless, top speed of 98kmph, chugging/stalling, blue smoke :( Trying to drive it as little as possible untill i can afford to get somebody to have a really good clean up, and find exactly what is wrong with it.

But considering how i drive it, and what sort of trips/tracks ive done with it, its been a great motor :)
 

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ok well the 04 series 3 was a peice of ****e looked good in the pics but in person was thrashed, oil leaks, undercarridge was pretty beatin about interior was torn plus plus, but anyway. Ok i also got time to look at a couple of 2006/2007 3.0 auto dx models from about 22g to 26g with around the120k mark.I didnt mind the simplicity of them except for no electric windows. Would it be hard to fit electric windows to a dx do they already have the same wiring harness but just need the interior door panel and internals for the doors?
 

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Yeah pics can be deceiving, need to check it out good. Yeah i love those 06-07 dx,s. They are 3ltr CRD and have that cool rear side window that slides, its cool i nearly bought one of them. They got big black plastic flares, look tuff. Dunno about the windows, its good exercise for your arms to wind windows up and down. ;) I saved on gym fees!!

Did you go and drive / test that 03 model ?
 

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nah i didnt drive the 03 one the salesman was busting my balls as it was :mad: lol, im going back to hopefully look at the dx on tuesday and see how that goes
 

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Yeah do that but don't cross the 03 ST off the list yet, give a drive and check it real close up, don't worry about the [email protected]#$%r salesman, those things are normal if your going to buy a vehicle... ;) That 04 model in vic looks good, go check it out!!
 

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Gday all, i am after some help with chosing a GU i am looking at spending around the 20 mark and have seen a lot of 1998 2003 patrols for around that price. The question i have is what should i steer away from as i have heard so many storys about the ZD30's failing, so far i have seen a couple of nice 2002 - 2003 patrols but am !*it scared about buying one due to the hole shadow casted over these motors. Tomorrow i will be looking at a 2003 3.0l st with 212000 k's dual batt, snorkel, bullbar, spotties 1 owner it looks real tidy they want 20 but might be able to get it down a little. Im looking at setting it up as a good tourer that will eventually tow a camper trailer later on. Ok enough baffling on the year and k's of the car i will be looking at tomorrow should that be fine?

Thanks Ian
Ian,

If you want to save some bucks and have time under your belt to do a bit of running around and learn your troll, a 3.0 ST is a great option. Yes they have history, but if you get one thats very clean with a blown motor you can have the rig with mods + fully optioned for 20K ish.
Then you have a brand new donk, all the mods you can ever use and be in front.

That said, I knew what I was buying after reading heaps on here and made that very decision. I am stocked! The troll drives and pulls like a dream and has exceeded my expectations, given I came from a Landcruiser Sahara (dirty word).

As the saying goes, "Failing to prepare is being prepared to fail. 2000mdle GU on wards are no problem , but you must do the N.A.D.S for piece of mind.
Good luck mate
 
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