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Well here we go, its now official big brother is watching you online or at least what you've been doing online. Another loss of ones privacy, I have nothing to hide but this just goes to far, this Abbott government has to go. Going to cost the government $400 million a year, and they say labor wasted money..lol.. pot calling the kettle black.
 

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I don't vote and I'm not interested in politics but i think its a good thing.
 

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If anyone here is still downloading torrents I highly recommend you get a VPN service.

Or welcome to 2015, you can now stream your content legally ;)
 

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How can it possibly be a good thing? It has been proven multiple times to have an insignificant effect on preventing terrorism / serious crimes, yet seriously invades the privacy of every Australian.

Wait until the crims get their hands on the delicious honeypot containing everyones data. :rolleyes:
 

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How can it possibly be a good thing? It has been proven multiple times to have an insignificant effect on preventing terrorism / serious crimes, yet seriously invades the privacy of every Australian.

Wait until the crims get their hands on the delicious honeypot containing everyones data. :rolleyes:
+1. Exactly.

It is so easy to circumnavigate the data retention laws its not funny.

Literally on the computer I am currently using 3 clicks of the mouse button and I am connected to a VPN.

I think criminals, terrorists and pedophiles are willing to make those 3 clicks if it means keeping their nefarious ways hidden.

Then you have the Tor browser which AFAIK totally anonymizes your internet browsing as well.

There are so many loopholes the only people it will really affect will be the masses.
 

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+1. Exactly.

It is so easy to circumnavigate the data retention laws its not funny.

Literally on the computer I am currently using 3 clicks of the mouse button and I am connected to a VPN.

I think criminals, terrorists and pedophiles are willing to make those 3 clicks if it means keeping their nefarious ways hidden.

Then you have the Tor browser which AFAIK totally anonymizes your internet browsing as well.

There are so many loopholes the only people it will really affect will be the masses.
Yep, I'm confident criminals already use anonymising technologies to carry out their nefarious activities, in which case this data retention bill won't help catch them. If they don't, and just start googling kiddy porn then you don't even need data retention to catch them (Plus, there is a whole discussion to be had about requiring 'reasonable suspicion').

There are just so many things wrong with this Bill, and yet the idiots who have voted it in can't even explain why we need it or how it will work.

One of the most frustrating things for me is that the vast majority of people simply do not understand the implications of this new law.
 

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Ridiculous law. Won't help catch any crims, just create an enormous honey pot that's just being begged to be hacked.
As always, it's the innocent majority that get screwed.
 
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Stupid just hit a new level.

The politicians who supported/pushed this stuff through don't even understand what they have done.

If you use the internet (duh), educate yourself on this stuff, and take steps to protect your privacy.
 
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Stupid just hit a new level.

The politicians who supported/pushed this stuff through don't even understand what they have done.

If you use the internet (duh), educate yourself on this stuff, and take steps to protect your privacy.
I think the people who orchestrated this knew exactly what they were doing.
 

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Stupid just hit a new level.

The politicians who supported/pushed this stuff through don't even understand what they have done.

If you use the internet (duh), educate yourself on this stuff, and take steps to protect your privacy.
Those who blindly voted for it to pass have no idea of the implications. Most of them don't even know what any of it means.

It gets worse because it's not just the Internet, but it's also your phone data (Including location data derived from the cell tower locations).

Take a look at this link to see what 6 months of phone metadata looks like...

http://www.zeit.de/datenschutz/malte-spitz-data-retention
 

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It's interesting to look at Europe and some of the other countries that have tried to implement this:

- European Union: Data Retention Directive ruled in violation of fundamental rights.
- - Czech Republic: Deemed unconstitutional
- - Germany: Ruled unconstitutional
- - Romania: Ruled unconstitutional, twice.
- - Slovakia: Under review, still formally valid but has no legal effect

- UK: Used the EU Data Retention Directive, nullified by the EU high court, so they brought in a new act, rushed through like ours.
- USA: All attempts at mandatory data retention have failed (Though they do employ a fair slab of commercial data retention, plus there's the whole NSA thing).
- Argentina: Ruled unconstitutional

It would be interesting to see how this would have panned out if our constitution included a bill of rights, or some kind of right to privacy... I wonder how this fits into the APP.

Unfortunately, it looks like we're all a little bit screwed. Because terrorists.
 

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Also expect your internet and mobile phone plans bills to rise due to the added cost to your ISP and communications provider having to spend more to store this stuff.
 

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Is Terrorism the reason or the excuse?

Cheers.....Lionel.
It was used as both.

This is what happens when politicians are allowed to pass politics on technology where they seem to struggle with politics let alone technology..

Being that both parties passed it im sus that the bigger picture is less about security and more about feathering nests. Someine has done a cracker of a sales pitch on this one.

When all this data gets leaked and sold to crims, and peoples identities are used to allow bad guys into the country watch the finger pointing then...
 

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Also expect your internet and mobile phone plans bills to rise due to the added cost to your ISP and communications provider having to spend more to store this stuff.
Christopher piiiiiiiiiiiine says thats everything will be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. His familiy trust will be claiming his internet bill as a deduction so the rest of australia will be fiiiiiiiiiine.
 

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I don't care about browsing data as thousands of institutions already record all my data but I don't like their ability to track my physical locations from my phone as this could then be hacked and used by crims who want to rob your house when your away. That's just nuts!!
 

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If you think they can't do any of this now you are naïve. They are just making it legal.
 
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