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Throttle Position Sensor:
Since both my GU and my donor GQ where auto's I was lucky enough to have the TPS on the fuel pump.
Matt at UFI did a great job of pulling the TPS off my 10mm pump and grafting it onto my DC3 11mm pump.

There are 2x 3 pin plugs on the TB45, one for the throttle position sensor and one for throttle position sensor and one for throttle position switch. On the TD42 this is combined into 1x 6pin plug.
(I had to find a French copy of the GQ manual before I could find a wiring diagram for a TD42 auto!!)

Throttle Position Switch:
TB45..................Function..........TD42
Green/Orange.....12V power.......Green/Red
White/Green........Full Throttle....Green/Black
Black..................Idle................Light Green

Throttle Position Sensor
Orange...............12V power.......Yellow
White..................Position..........Yellow/Red
Black..................Earth..............Yellow/Blue
I got my hands on a tps for the top of a pump from a safari, my wiring colours on the safari tps are -
white
black
blue/red
blue/yellow
black/blue
blue

I cant find any wiring diagrams that match these colours, any chance you guys know?
 

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Did you see in my conversion thread where I removed one of the springs from the ZD drum because I was worried about it being too firm.

Anyway, can you sort out your IP TPS now from the plug I mentioned or do you still need to know what wire is what?
 

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To make mine easier maybe I should source a Sahara 6 wire TPS.....matching 91 TB42s auto loom to 93 TD42 and 2000 GU TD42ti 3 Wire TPS...
That would solve your issue of throttle open/closed signal which you can't get from the 3 wire TPS you have but it won't resolve the problem of the 5v needed from the TCU.

Also, last time I looked for a 6 wire TD42 TPS they were $350 so I adapted a $50 TPS from a ZD30.
 

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Can the TB45e TCU be used without the ECU? What is it relying on?
The wiring diagram shows 4 wires going between the TCU and ECU. You would need to work out what they are etc.
I would suggest not using the TB45 TCU unless the ECU is there and communicating to it.
If you want to use a Nissan TCU without a ECU present, then try a TCU from an automatic carby 4.2 GQ.
 

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Throttle Position Sensor:
Since both my GU and my donor GQ where auto's I was lucky enough to have the TPS on the fuel pump.
Matt at UFI did a great job of pulling the TPS off my 10mm pump and grafting it onto my DC3 11mm pump.

There are 2x 3 pin plugs on the TB45, one for the throttle position sensor and one for throttle position sensor and one for throttle position switch. On the TD42 this is combined into 1x 6pin plug.
(I had to find a French copy of the GQ manual before I could find a wiring diagram for a TD42 auto!!)

Throttle Position Switch:
TB45..................Function..........TD42
Green/Orange.....12V power.......Green/Red
White/Green........Full Throttle....Green/Black
Black..................Idle................Light Green

Throttle Position Sensor
Orange...............12V power.......Yellow
White..................Position..........Yellow/Red
Black..................Earth..............Yellow/Blue
I made typo in the Throttle Position Switch:
Red/blue.............Idle.................Light Green

Here is a photo:
Thanks for all the info in here Mytquik. Wish I found your TPS wiring info in post 14 before I wasted a lot of time looking for that info. I posted a few of my same findings in here (which also has some good info on TPS part numbers etc.);
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-safari-31/td42-auto-problems-93265/

I hope i'm not seen as too anal by correcting a minor issue in the quoted info above.
It isn't 12v positive or negative that goes into the TPS. It's 5v, and both + and - is coming from the TCU just for the purpose of TPS. The factory wiring diagrams show what pins it comes from, so if you are wiring a TPS to feed into your TCU, then it should be obvious that you feed it from the TCU and not an external 12v + and - source.
 

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Thanks Snatchy.

I have not seen the diagrams yet, just starting to research this project, I am assuming from threads I've read on here there is some kind of datalink between the two control units.

I am looking at putting an auto into a GU factory TD42ti. Was hoping to buy all the bits from one vehicle and I have found a couple of wrecked TB45 autos with all the extra bits but by the sounds of it I can't use the TB45 TCU.
 

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Thanks Snatchy.

I have not seen the diagrams yet, just starting to research this project, I am assuming from threads I've read on here there is some kind of datalink between the two control units.

I am looking at putting an auto into a GU factory TD42ti. Was hoping to buy all the bits from one vehicle and I have found a couple of wrecked TB45 autos with all the extra bits but by the sounds of it I can't use the TB45 TCU.
Good luck with the project. I'm half way through the same thing but on a GQ TD42.
Yeah the TB42 carby TCU would suit you I gather. There was one on gumtree for $75. You will find one cheap if you dig around.
 

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Can the TB45e TCU be used without the ECU? What is it relying on?
No, it can't. If the data communication wires aren't there, it goes into limp.
The TB45E auto ECU was designed to retard the ignition at each up shift so it's seen as a fault if it can't communicate.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no auto ECU/TCU combo for the TD42Ti.
You can use the TCU from a TB42 or TD42.
 

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I hope i'm not seen as too anal by correcting a minor issue in the quoted info above.
It isn't 12v positive or negative that goes into the TPS. It's 5v, and both + and - is coming from the TCU just for the purpose of TPS. The factory wiring diagrams show what pins it comes from, so if you are wiring a TPS to feed into your TCU, then it should be obvious that you feed it from the TCU and not an external 12v + and - source.
I think you'll find he realised it was a typo but couldn't edit the post after a day.
Anyone working on TPS wiring knows it's 5v so it wasn't really an issue..
 
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