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I am new to the forum. First time troll owner of a 2007 crd auto. Always wanted to have a solid axle tourer/off roader. Couldn't afford anything else I can afford hence got this last year with all my savings. Both it for $12000 and spend $3000 to do the rego renewal, needed airbag module, shocks, brakes, service, aircon fix, starter motor etc. Since then managed to do one trip to Lithgow. The car had a starting issue. But the mechanic said it's normal. Which became bad to worse over time. Also no power going uphill. And the car stalled at Lithgow once going uphill. So came home searched YouTube and did the banjo bold mod. Ran well for few days then became the same and eventually a no starter without starting fluid and cutting out randomly while cruising. Torque app code p0089. So changed suction control valve. No improvement. Contacted the local mechanic and he's answer was you should have kept your 90 serious Prado. He said need to change all the injectors and pump. I am sure he has no clue about this car. I am scared to take it to him as he will charge me my body parts and keep the car for 6 months like last time and do nothing. After a some searching I found the forum and thought to share my experience with you guys, hoping someone might help me. This car ruined my Christmas holidays last year and my weekends since then..not to mention Its becoming financial unaffordable for me very fast.

Sorry for all the monologue.

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Welcome Alam..
Sorrry to hear about your probs,
Sounds like you might need another mechanic.. One of the zd guru's will be along soon.
 

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G'day Alam, welcome to the forum mate. Check there are no cracks / splits in the fuel lines...put a new fuel filter on.....clean MAF sensor with contact cleaner ...Also if your having issues and your mechanic says it's normal, CHANGE YOUR MECHANIC !
 

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Good morning everyone.
I am new to the forum. First time troll owner of a 2007 crd auto. Always wanted to have a solid axle tourer/off roader. Couldn't afford anything else I can afford hence got this last year with all my savings. Both it for $12000 and spend $3000 to do the rego renewal, needed airbag module, shocks, brakes, service, aircon fix, starter motor etc. Since then managed to do one trip to Lithgow. The car had a starting issue. But the mechanic said it's normal. Which became bad to worse over time. Also no power going uphill. And the car stalled at Lithgow once going uphill. So came home searched YouTube and did the banjo bold mod. Ran well for few days then became the same and eventually a no starter without starting fluid and cutting out randomly while cruising. Torque app code p0089. So changed suction control valve. No improvement. Contacted the local mechanic and he's answer was you should have kept your 90 serious Prado. He said need to change all the injectors and pump. I am sure he has no clue about this car. I am scared to take it to him as he will charge me my body parts and keep the car for 6 months like last time and do nothing. After a some searching I found the forum and thought to share my experience with you guys, hoping someone might help me. This car ruined my Christmas holidays last year and my weekends since then..not to mention Its becoming financial unaffordable for me very fast.

Sorry for all the monologue.

King regards
Alam
Absobloodylutely re mechanic, hard starting is NOT normal. I would do exactly what @2002gu3 has suggested, but before hand pump the primer and let us know how many pumps it takes to go hard, should be 1-2. air leaks in fuel lines between filter housing and fuel tank can allow fuel to drain back to the tank making it hard to start of a morning, if this is the case the primer will be soft, so pump it firm and see if it starts easier. Also if the vehicle doesn't start within a certain timeframe the ECU will throw codes indicating pump issues etc, when likely there is nothing wrong (been there done that). The MAF can cause a lot of issues (on any vehicle) a genuine MAF is the way to go, seen to many issues with people using non genuine MAF's or MAF's from another model. You could also have an issue with the fuel rail pressure sensor.
Try the basic things first and let us know, if you can give us all the codes you get please do that, disconnect to battery for 20 minutes, this can reset the ECU and get rid of old codes.
 

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Thank you Geeyoutoo, 45/70 and 2003gu2. Yeah he kept the car for 6 months to pass the rego and the solution for hard start was starter motor and yet not fixed and told big motor takes longer to start.. Since then i never been to him.
Been reading the forum frantically for the last few day in the meantime I did the followings myself
#New glow plugs
#New SCV
#banjo bolt mod, seen in youtube
#new fuel filter
#ran injector cleaner.
#new return line for the injectors
#new maf- ebay
#air filter
No improvement whatsoever.
+Hard start hot or cold specially once hot without always starting fluid
+Revs fine at neutral but in gear can't go past 2500 rpm pedal to the floor
+No up hill grunt whatsoever
+Stalling at steady speed
+ Serious rev hunting at cruise control
+Black smoke
+Rattling at idle and take off till warms up
+Code p0089 only code.
+Prime bulb from BCF, as the old one was shot. Takes at least 5 or pumps to be hard and stays hard for like 5 minutes.
Car has 289000km, 2inch lift, bull bar with winch on 35s. Other wise standard.
Much appreciated everyone you don't know how good it feels to talk to someone who understands my pain.
 

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If the ebay maf is non genuine it may still be a problem..
Talk to Gary Clark at Nizzbits, he will get you sorted..
He is in the vendors section.
 

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OK, 35's are going to add a lot of load to the engine, this could be causing limp, on a DI you simply lift your foot and MAFv limp will disappear on a CRD this is not always the case. Can you get hold of a set of std wheels for a while for testing. and I would get a new MAF to rule that out, you can contact our own nissan parts man Gary [email protected]om he looks after us.
 

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Will contact Gary/nizzbits for genuine MAF and will update. Sorry Forgot to mention code p0401, don't know if the previous owner blocked off the EGR. Car came with 35s. Don't know where I can source a set of std tyres. Only option would be to place an ad in Facebook to sell or swap for std. But what do I do about starting issue though?
 

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Will contact Gary/nizzbits for genuine MAF and will update. Sorry Forgot to mention code p0401, don't know if the previous owner blocked off the EGR. Car came with 35s. Don't know where I can source a set of std tyres. Only option would be to place an ad in Facebook to sell or swap for std. But what do I do about starting issue though?
First up need to absolutely ensure all air is removed from the fuel system and move on from there.
 

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If it takes 5 pumps to get hard and only stays hard for 5 minutes there must be an air leak somewhere....pump until hard then try starting immediately and see if that helps with the hard starting.....the lack of power sounds like it's in limp mode or maybe turbo has **** itself.
 

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If it takes 5 pumps to get hard and only stays hard for 5 minutes there must be an air leak somewhere....pump until hard then try starting immediately and see if that helps with the hard starting.....the lack of power sounds like it's in limp mode or maybe turbo has **** itself.
Thanks mate, will give it a try tomorrow morning and will give you an update. But last time I drove I could hear the turbo spooling and torque app was showing boost building though.
 

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Good morning everyone
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Took the car to a new mecanich this morning. Took me 5 squeezes to make the primer hard then 5 attempts to start the car. Lucky it's pouring down here & cold. If it was hot or driven before, had to use starting fluid. Explained everything to the new mechich and he thinks- no air leak or other issues rather something electrical! He has Bosch authorised auto electrician next door, they both will have a look at it. So I left it with him awaiting verdict.
 

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Good morning everyone
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Took the car to a new mecanich this morning. Took me 5 squeezes to make the primer hard then 5 attempts to start the car. Lucky it's pouring down here & cold. If it was hot or driven before, had to use starting fluid. Explained everything to the new mechich and he thinks- no air leak or other issues rather something electrical! He has Bosch authorised auto electrician next door, they both will have a look at it. So I left it with him awaiting verdict.
If it takes 5 pumps to make the primer go hard something is amiss, it should take 1-2 as I mentioned earlier, it may not be the full issue but it isn't right. Let us know what he finds. 3 things that keep a diesel going air/fuel/compression, if starting fluid gets it going I seriously doubt electrics, glad to be proven wrong though.
 

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If it takes 5 pumps to make the primer go hard something is amiss, it should take 1-2 as I mentioned earlier, it may not be the full issue but it isn't right. Let us know what he finds. 3 things that keep a diesel going air/fuel/compression, if starting fluid gets it going I seriously doubt electrics, glad to be proven wrong though.
Told him the primer needs 5 or more pumps, he just said ok. Then I told him there could be air leak and his reply was car wouldn't start with air leak or lock! Therefore at this point of time I had to leave it with him so he can do his investigation.
 

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One more thing to be aware of, if you normally park nose up overnight, this can cause fuel to siphon back to the tank making it very hard to start, went through this many years ago.
 

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Got a call from the mechanic, he said it could be turbo, or injectors or pump. Due to code p0089 and p0401. Unfortunately that's out of his jurisdiction. Suggested me to take it to a diesel specialist. Went to pick up the car they drained the battery trying to start it. Had to jump start it.
 

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So the car was with a diesel specialist on Friday. After $66.00 scanning fee the result was code p1089. According to him the car needs fuel pressure regulator, injectors and pump. Asked him about MAF, he said should be fine. Then asked him about leaks, he siad possible, try Ryco filter might help. But at the end he is pretty confident that it's the above 3s.
Today I looked for air leak couldn't find anything but one of the hose clamp on the primer bulb was loose for my liking and there was also a split under there. I replaced the common with. A screw type clamp. Felt like it worked, primer becoming hard quickly. Will try again tomorrow to check.
I am still hesitant to replace the pump. Since I have blocked off the banjo bolt. I can rule out the FPR. Scanner showed 10000kpa at start up and I think it's loosing pressure through injectors. I asked around and was quoted $650 to 900 for each. The mechanics mate offer ,$250 each reconditionned + labour $500 & $850 for reco pump and $1200 Labor. Will keep you posted just incase I can help someone.
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Seems like I will get the chance to catch up on my sleeps and dreaming about wheeling and fishing this Easter holidays. :rolleyes:😖
Have a good one guys. Thanks
 

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That is interesting about the air leak at the hose fitting, if primer firmed quicker then there was an issue, they should have picked that up. Will be interesting to see what happens. One thing at a time mete.
 
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