Powder will only flake off if the company doing it does not do it properly, there area few steps to do before apply to ensure you get a good job.
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Powder vs paint
Trying to decide between powder and paint for a new aluminium tray and canopy. Paint seems about twice the price but which will be better, am concerned powder will flake off when it inevitably gets scratched or hits a bank
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If you are going to powder coat aluminium the metal has to be chromate treated and preferably acid washed first. Powder coating is a porous coating which allows moisture in to start off that white corrosion process which will bubble the coating rendering it useless in a very short time if open to weather. Absolutely useless around salt water even when treated properly.
For a alloy tray if you must paint it then a acid wash, then a chromate wash, (Alodine or Irridite) then a epoxy primer and a mastic type (Rhino) colour coat would be the most durable. But any of the marine colour coats are very resistant to bumps and scratching and usually cheaper and a hell of a lot more durable than limited solids car paints.
Edit: nothing will bite into the extruded mill finish on alloy even those etch primer paints for alloy will not bite into an extruded mill finish you have to sand it first if you want any sort of surface coating to adhere to aluminium. The industrial Acid washes with nitric acid will remove the mill finish even then sanding is best, those Ali Brite cleaners with hydrochloric and sulphuric acids will not remove mill finish, you need to sand it first.. A fine garnet whip blast work well as does soda wet blast..
For a alloy tray if you must paint it then a acid wash, then a chromate wash, (Alodine or Irridite) then a epoxy primer and a mastic type (Rhino) colour coat would be the most durable. But any of the marine colour coats are very resistant to bumps and scratching and usually cheaper and a hell of a lot more durable than limited solids car paints.
Edit: nothing will bite into the extruded mill finish on alloy even those etch primer paints for alloy will not bite into an extruded mill finish you have to sand it first if you want any sort of surface coating to adhere to aluminium. The industrial Acid washes with nitric acid will remove the mill finish even then sanding is best, those Ali Brite cleaners with hydrochloric and sulphuric acids will not remove mill finish, you need to sand it first.. A fine garnet whip blast work well as does soda wet blast..
For steel (I know it's aluminium) I would have said powder all the way. It's less visually appealing imo, but has much better resistance to scratching and flaking off if done properly.
Do all shops do acid wash or is that something I need to double check with them? Leaning towards powder at this stage as few people saying more durable but doesn't look as goodIf you are going to powder coat aluminium the metal has to be chromate treated and preferably acid washed first. Powder coating is a porous coating which allows moisture in to start off that white corrosion process which will bubble the coating rendering it useless in a very short time if open to weather. Absolutely useless around salt water even when treated properly.
For a alloy tray if you must paint it then a acid wash, then a chromate wash, (Alodine or Irridite) then a epoxy primer and a mastic type (Rhino) colour coat would be the most durable. But any of the marine colour coats are very resistant to bumps and scratching and usually cheaper and a hell of a lot more durable than limited solids car paints.
Edit: nothing will bite into the extruded mill finish on alloy even those etch primer paints for alloy will not bite into an extruded mill finish you have to sand it first if you want any sort of surface coating to adhere to aluminium. The industrial Acid washes with nitric acid will remove the mill finish even then sanding is best, those Ali Brite cleaners with hydrochloric and sulphuric acids will not remove mill finish, you need to sand it first.. A fine garnet whip blast work well as does soda wet blast..
As said aluminium oxides on the surface is not good for any paint process especially powder coats which use a mechanical bond process for adhesion.
You could sand and acid wash and chromate treat the tray yourself then give it to a powder coater to be sure. Because from experience without that process to remove the oxides and seal the surface with chromate, paint or powders have a hard time staying on Alloy.
A link for you to check on my advice
Aluminium Powder coat
Just to be a bit picky most coaters dont understand alloy. after acid wash you have to chromate before the surface is completely dry otherwise the surface will start to oxidise again and the normal chromate wash isn't as effective. For alloy boats like my avatar we use a bromelain mix in the chromate to counteract oxide development. Or just dont acid wash in direct sunlight.
You could sand and acid wash and chromate treat the tray yourself then give it to a powder coater to be sure. Because from experience without that process to remove the oxides and seal the surface with chromate, paint or powders have a hard time staying on Alloy.
A link for you to check on my advice
Aluminium Powder coat
Just to be a bit picky most coaters dont understand alloy. after acid wash you have to chromate before the surface is completely dry otherwise the surface will start to oxidise again and the normal chromate wash isn't as effective. For alloy boats like my avatar we use a bromelain mix in the chromate to counteract oxide development. Or just dont acid wash in direct sunlight.
Anyone recommendations for powdercoaters around Brisbane or told coast area, quite a few I have called won't do trays or canopiesAs said aluminium oxides on the surface is not good for any paint process especially powder coats which use a mechanical bond process for adhesion.
You could sand and acid wash and chromate treat the tray yourself then give it to a powder coater to be sure. Because from experience without that process to remove the oxides and seal the surface with chromate, paint or powders have a hard time staying on Alloy.
A link for you to check on my advice
Aluminium Powder coat
Just to be a bit picky most coaters dont understand alloy. after acid wash you have to chromate before the surface is completely dry otherwise the surface will start to oxidise again and the normal chromate wash isn't as effective. For alloy boats like my avatar we use a bromelain mix in the chromate to counteract oxide development. Or just dont acid wash in direct sunlight.
Gc powdercoat in burleigh mate. Have used them for last 8 yrs. Rob's the boss. Great guy with great workers doing awesome work. Can do trays n canopies with doors removed. Has 2 big ovens the size of 40ft shipping containers. Tell them Brett from Muzfab sent you. Might get charged double but it will be worth it🤣🤣
Thanks mate, will give them a call today, is it the one on kimberley road?Gc powdercoat in burleigh mate. Have used them for last 8 yrs. Rob's the boss. Great guy with great workers doing awesome work. Can do trays n canopies with doors removed. Has 2 big ovens the size of 40ft shipping containers. Tell them Brett from Muzfab sent you. Might get charged double but it will be worth it🤣🤣
Correct. Rob, Mick n Jason. Great bunch of guysThanks mate, will give them a call today, is it the one on kimberley road?
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