[jonstrol]

hi guys went out bush over the weekend got some issues now the big one is it doesnt start now all it does is turns over doesnt even try to start, could it not be glowing, or not getting fuel, we can tow start it and drives fine doesnt skip a beat and starts again when been driving it but not cold start. any ideas?

 

[Boo]

Check the lead to your glowplug railing, they are a dodgy setup at the best of times.
Does she blow any smoke when she's winding over?

 

[jonstrol]

a little but not much smoke

 

[Gezza15]

If its blowing smoke shes got fuel mate

 

[jonstrol]

ill have a better look tomorrow about the smoke

 

[Wish I Had Coils]

maybe the edic motor is not turning on all the way, making it hard to start. you know when you start your normally half to full throttle so if the fuel is not all there you won't get enough to start. try disconnecting the edic motor.

 

[jonstrol]

nah that didnt work COILS and had another look at how much smoke comes out basically none

 

[Boo]

Havnt heard back from you about the wiring to your glowies.. so im guessing its all hooked up and working? Have you put a multimeter on her?

 

[jonstrol]

sorry mate i forgot i cleaned the glow plug and didnt help, one of my mates reckons its a fuel issue

 

[Boo]

Yeah have you got fuel to the injectors? crack one and see that it is getting fuel when you wind her over

 

[Ric]

You say you can tow start it and it starts and runs fine. It also starts fine when warm so to me it does not seem to be a fuel problem.
When you tow start it how long does it take to fire?

When you start cranking it when cold does the edic motor turn a quarter turn to the start position?

It should turn a quarter turn to the top (start position) while cranking. As she fires or when you release the key the edic motor should then continue anticlockwise another 90 deg to bottom position or "Run".
When you stop the engine the edic completes another quarter turn to the "off" position.

Check to see if it is cycling properly.

Apart from this, as others have already said check the voltage to the glow plugs. Just put a multi meter or test lamp from any of the glow plug terminals to earth and turn the ignition on to activate the glow cycle. You should see 12 - 13 volts. If not then your glow plug circuit is not working.

Cheers Ric

 

[Nightjar]

Have a look here mate.

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-mq-mk-12/sd33t-struggle-street-199250/

 

[jonstrol]

RIC looks like it turning on and off fine, my mate and i got it started with some "start ya bastard" down the snorkel, and NIGHTJAR cheers i saw that post thats the next thing im gonna try as soon as it stops raining here. cheers guys for your help soo far

 

[Boo]

Just be careful with that spray.. Indirect injection diesels don't like it very much.
Also if you do use it, make sure the engine is winding over before it is sprayed.

Once it has started, does it run well?

Have you checked your engine control fuse? (20amp from memory, a fair way up the back of the fuse box)

 

[jonstrol]

yeah runs well when we get it started and warmed up,took it for a run down the highway no problems. all the fuses are still good

 

[Boo]

As i have mentioned previously, if you crack injectors when winding that will tell you whether its a fuel problem or not. A 17mm spanner is all it takes dude

 

[jonstrol]

yeah got fuel going to the injectors, spent all day checking things got it goin with a set of glow plugs