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Saw this on FB.

Underlines the importance of using quality, rated gear and recovery points, it can really minimise the risk of this happening.

Hope the guy pulls through.
 

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I wonder if they were using one of the brand of straps that were recalled recently? Hope the kid pulls through tho regardless.
 

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I wonder if they were using one of the brand of straps that were recalled recently? Hope the kid pulls through tho regardless.

I dout it was the strap, They said somthing metal came back and hit him so that leaves 2 options. One the point it was attached to being a towball or shackle breaking off. If the strap snapped there is nothing attached to it.

Only was I could imagine that happening is if they had 2 straps joined with a shackle in the middle and the first strap broke. That being almost as bad as an idea as using the towball
 

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Yeah a strap in the head just stings a bit with a minor headache after.
 

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Whatever it was, it's a terrible outcome from what should have been a fun day/evening out.

This is what I hate - no matter how much we say it here and wherever else we're active on social media, the message just isn't getting out. You just can't be too safe when it comes to a recovery! It pisses me off to no end - all the information is out there, the equipment is available, there's even training available... and this still happens.

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Saw on the news just now that they said a "buckle" hit him. So I assume it was a shackle. My guess is dodgy shackle or dodgy recovery poi ton the helping veichle. They also said the accident happened on private land where they had been trespassing.

Either way, sad news. Hopefully he will get through this.
 

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I always use a chain. Less likely to break and less likely to have the slingshot effect. Tow trucks use chains.
I much rather using a strap or drag chain... But sometimes when you stuck good you need the extra power a snatchy provides.
 

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I much rather using a strap or drag chain... But sometimes when you stuck good you need the extra power a snatchy provides.
same here- chain or rated rope/strap.for the snatch effect i use a kinetic rope which works just as well
i believe a winch is what should be used if you are stuck good.
 

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Holy Crap! what an IDIOT!!!!
 

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I have only ever carried a snatch strap. Tell me if I'm wrong but providing the snatch strap is rated appropriately, in good condition and so are the shackles and recovery points, it should be relatively harmless even if it snaps. On the proviso (and this is the important one), everyone is standing clear. A snatchy doesn't have to be used to snatch. In fact I rarely do. I initially use it the same as a chain or rope. I'm just having an issue understanding the difference if used in a similar way ( accept for a snatchy having more mechanical sympothy).

This is a terrible ending to something that could more than likely have been prevented. There must have been a catastrophic heavy piece of recover equipment failure, which resulted in it flying through the front or back window, or he was standing where he shouldn't have been.

Terrible. I hope he's ok. :(
 

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Yeah, seen that....

In reply to using chains, it's a bad idea generally because of the thing that makes 4wd recovery different to a tow truck. The instant energy created with any sort of 'tug' on a chain, coupled to the weight of the chain, you then have to take into account the loading on a chain that doesn't stretch vs a snatch strap. Any decent strap should be rated to 9-15ton. That's a stonkin' chain.

A tow truck or a crane uses a chain because a very slow moving constant dead weight requires no stretch and a simple low breaking strain. With a set point to winch from whereas in a 4wd you have 2 moving cars in most situations.

If you tried to safely recover A stuck decently setup gu in a typical bush situation with a chain you would need an excavator.
 

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I use a chain for dragging... not "snatching" NEVER try use a chain to snatch someone out.. the shaock load is massive. I try with the chain to skull drag people out.. if that isn't good enough resort to the snatch strap..

Even better if you can hook the snatch strap to the front recovery hook without having to use a shackle... if the hook breaks or bends open during the recovery that is one less bit of steel flying head height.
 

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All to common with kids that don't get taught proper "safe" procedures for recovery. I once saw a kid about to try a snatch recovery using four strands of clothes line wire twisted together.
 
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