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The fact is that the traditional owners already charge visiters to Cape York with their combined ferry and camping fee which gives visitors access to vacant land as well as return fare on the ferry. Now they want a second bite at the cherry by forcing visitors to pay an indigeonous escort/guide to walk with them from the carpark to the tip and back. It's not as if you can get lost and it's almost impossible to damage anything on the walk as 99% of it is barren rock.

I'm a user pays kind of guy and all in favour of charging people to camp on your land or to pay for services you provide but I'm against charging people for services they don't want (think big banks) and I'm against ripping people off just because you have a monopoly such as $103 for a 30m ferry ride. I'd say very few people make use of the camping rights that come with the ferry ticket. Almost everyone camps at one of the commercial camp grounds.

 

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Probably think it’s a great idea because interstate tourist dollars have been down during the pandemic.
 
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Apparently they did discuss closing it all together. Ayers Rock closed to climbing, here on sunny coast there was a push from local 'mobs' to close some of the climbs around here following Ayers Rock closure (I refuse to call it anything else because of the attitude, I have climbed it and would do it again if it was opened, but won't consider visiting a place that works that way). BS, in this day and age, this is just as much my Australia as it is anyone else's,
 

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There has been a whisper that this has been discussed for Fraser Island.
 
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Interesting I think. When you get previous public lands and grant the title to a designated owner, then that must give them some rights to do this. It was always going to happen I thought.
 

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When you get previous public lands and grant the title to a designated owner, then that must give them some rights to do this. It was always going to happen I thought.
Too true. Just like they closed the Ayres Rock climb despite a condition of signing the rock over was keeping it open. Once you sign over control you lose control. Just like Hong Kong. The conditions hung on the original contract become meaningless. These places that were the property of all Australians become the property of just a few and we are naive to think otherwise.
 

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Now what’s going to happen when the extinction of the ( great Ozzie battler ) who’s going to say sorry to us.
 
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I do not have any issue with the granting of these lands to traditional owners. But my view is that when ownership is granted then further tax payer funded handouts should stop. If they are to be tax payer funded, then we should be able to go there without further expense.

Nice idea, but will never happen. :(
 

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More Cape York national park land handed over to indigeonous ownership today.

I wonder who pays for the upkeep maintenance of the national parks?
has anyone seen what an indigenous community park usually looks like?
big mistake i say...
 

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I wonder who pays for the upkeep maintenance of the national parks?
If it is anything like Kakadu and Uluru then ownership gets handed back to the aboriginies and National Parks then continue to run the park much like they always have but pay them a lease payment every year. Not a lot changes except the local aborigines get a bag of money every year and more of a say in how the park is run. The running of the park is still done by National Parks. The system is not without its problems though because even though consultation takes place and drawings are done about projects that are going to happen, they still get local custodians that complain that things are not what they expected or are different to how it was explained to them. I have no idea where the blame truly lies for those breakdowns in communication but I know that NT parks turn over a lot of park managers even though they are quite well paid.
 

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If it is anything like Kakadu and Uluru then ownership gets handed back to the aboriginies and National Parks then continue to run the park much like they always have but pay them a lease payment every year
So insted of the government getting a cut of the cash it all goes to the "owners",
So its a money issue you think?
 
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