triangulated 4link front end??

Troyyyy · Jan 1, 2011

i currently have a triangulated 4link kit from Triangle 4 Link Kit
it was purchased for a coil over conversion on a 2wd ute but the ute is sold now and i have this kit, i am considering putting it in the front of my gq.
has anyone got any tips or ideas??
clearly it is setup for lowered vehicles and would need differant possibly longer arms..
or would the 4link paralel arms be better suited with the panard rod which would make it a 5link??

Suspension Stuff · Jan 1, 2011

For extreme flex use 3 links and a panhard rod. 2 lowers and an angled in upper and panhard rod.

You can't double triangulate the front because the engine is in the way. It can only be done if you move the engine back heaps.

I would prefer a 5 link if you plan to do any kind of road driving for still great flex. I would set up a sway bar though.

Shane

Reaper01 · Jan 2, 2011

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i wouldnt even attempt it,
for one the diff is off centre and it would make it to hard to set up an arm to go over the front sharft and not hit the sump, and that kit would not be strong enough told hold up to the force from 4bn

Troyyyy · Jan 2, 2011

cheers well that put an to that idea

stormpatrol · Jan 2, 2011

Go

GO a x link bloke

Troyyyy · Jan 2, 2011

definatley lookin that way before i hack the car up

GQ4X4 · Jan 4, 2011

Ive recently been contemplating different ideas for the front end of the pootrol...having just recently come into a bit of luck coinage wise i wanted to turn the patrol into a competition spec truck predominantly for crawling works. Most of the guys over here in W.A run the bloody hiluxes or zooks, and the patrols which are in it all run basically superflex arms, which work great but i want to do something a little different.

What could realistically be done that isnt A) Superflex arms, or B) an X link....

5 link front i know about and understand but is there any other options, idea being to utilise coil overs all round the usual big tyres etc etc, its just a pipe dream atm but hunting round for ideas...

Suspension Stuff · Jan 4, 2011

3 Link and level out your panhard rod and drag link would work best for flex.
2 X lower trailing arms and triangulate a single upper arm to the top of the diff centre. With coil overs and this setup you get lots of body roll, they usually keep the bump stop clearances to a minimum.
I would recommend a front winch to your diff for off camber situations to stop the flop.

Shane

GQ4X4 · Jan 4, 2011

Thanks for that mate, we are running the above mentioned setup on the 6 series buggy my brother in law built and i navvy for, the front and rear winches for sucking the suspension in and out work a treat. I just wasnt sue if it could work on the patrol. Also I was aware of the bump stop clearances as we run maybe 4inches at the very most, all our 'flex' comes from down travel.

Thanks again though, might have to start mocking some stuff up

DGR01 · Jan 4, 2011

troy, i tried to suggest a 4 link might be the way to go in your other thread, but got shot down by 'the experts'. So honestly there is no point in me trying to help with any info. :-(

good luck with finding what info you need....

LycraMooseKnuckle · Jan 5, 2011

DGR01 said:
troy, i tried to suggest a 4 link might be the way to go in your other thread, but got shot down by 'the experts'. So honestly there is no point in me trying to help with any info. :-(

good luck with finding what info you need....

Don't worry I banned that other idiot.

GQ4X4 · Jan 7, 2011

DGR01 said:
troy, i tried to suggest a 4 link might be the way to go in your other thread, but got shot down by 'the experts'. So honestly there is no point in me trying to help with any info. :-(

good luck with finding what info you need....

Hypotheticaly if you did want to run a 4 link front, what would need to be moved? the engine? If so roughly how far back are we talking? Realistic amounts or bull**** stupid stuff? I like to think nothing is really impossible...

Troyyyy · Jan 7, 2011

DGR01 said:
troy, i tried to suggest a 4 link might be the way to go in your other thread, but got shot down by 'the experts'. So honestly there is no point in me trying to help with any info. :-(

good luck with finding what info you need....

yeah that last thread got kinda hijacked. do u mean paralel 4link?

bamr33 · Jan 9, 2011

Parallel 4 link is a 5 link as a panhard rod is required to keep the diff central. 4 link has the top two arms angled into the center of diff to keep it central, not needing a panhard.

Suspension Stuff · Jan 9, 2011

GQ4X4 said:
Hypotheticaly if you did want to run a 4 link front, what would need to be moved? the engine? If so roughly how far back are we talking? Realistic amounts or bull**** stupid stuff? I like to think nothing is really impossible...

I don't know the actual answer to this question but it is unrealistic for most.

Check out Pirate4X4 if you want to learn about double triangualated 4 links. You have hundreds of hours of learning ahead of you. Pay attention to how much separation between links horizontally and vertically and the angle vertically that effects anti-squat. Different ways you set it up and better at different grip levels. Mostly in Australia we don't want too much anti-squat because we have a lot of dirt and slippery rocks.

Shane

Troyyyy · Jan 9, 2011

oakie dokie then, does anyone know of any off the shelf 5link kits or are they purely custom??

Suspension Stuff · Jan 9, 2011

Wizard Performance use to do one, I'm not sure if he still does them though. I will ask next time I chat.

Shane

Troyyyy · Jan 10, 2011

cheers shane, i did look on his site couldnt find anything tho

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