Hi guys is there anyone running this combo that could tell me when your turbo comes on boost. Im running a ls1 panel filter, 4 inch snorkel and 3 in mandrel bent exhaust and it seems to be a bit laggy.
Ufi 16g large and dc3
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I think simcoe runs that combo??
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/engine-drivetrain-55/pump-suit-ufi-16g-large-195050/
Some info here that may help.
Some info here that may help.
Here I go,
Yes I have that combo and all the go fast supporting mods.
199rwhp,
Boost starts at 1000, 1-2 psi
Under sustained load I have 15psi at 1500 and 20 ish by 1700 and 24 by 1900. The beach is a great test, load it up and listen to that sweet sweet boost happening nice and low!!
Blasting through the gears it's about 10psi at 1500 and 24 at 2100 as it's not working as hard and it's wroking through the rpm quicker then what I can read.
Untuned set up, with 33's 3.9 diffs and about 3.3 tonne worth of truck returning 13.5-15.5l/100
I recently increased the off boost fuel 1 turn and it has changed drive ability quite nicely in lower boost cruising!! Only a small puff of the good stuff when applying heavier pedal.
Yes I have that combo and all the go fast supporting mods.
199rwhp,
Boost starts at 1000, 1-2 psi
Under sustained load I have 15psi at 1500 and 20 ish by 1700 and 24 by 1900. The beach is a great test, load it up and listen to that sweet sweet boost happening nice and low!!
Blasting through the gears it's about 10psi at 1500 and 24 at 2100 as it's not working as hard and it's wroking through the rpm quicker then what I can read.
Untuned set up, with 33's 3.9 diffs and about 3.3 tonne worth of truck returning 13.5-15.5l/100
I recently increased the off boost fuel 1 turn and it has changed drive ability quite nicely in lower boost cruising!! Only a small puff of the good stuff when applying heavier pedal.
If there is anyone is Newy or near by that wants a pants feel of the big girl, I am open to members of the forum. I have some good test hills all within 5 mins, 6 pack per hot lap.(you drive, me passenger)
Will give you an idea on the power possible from the 'entry' set up!
Will give you an idea on the power possible from the 'entry' set up!
Doesn't fuel determine the boost limit ?
The biggest boost limit is the intake system. If its is restrictive it can suck silicone bends in, choking the engine of air.
Other than that the turbo is designed to run at a particular shaft speed. To make more boost the shaft speed has to increase.
Obviously if you design an entire turbo to be very efficient at 180K rpm giving 45psi of boost on a particular engine, its not going to operate optimally at 120K rpm and 25psi.
Im sure the UFI turbo is designed to cater for the vast majority of people that are aiming towards that 16-30psi range, and it is up to the user to choose speak to Matt and determine which one is going to work for your setup.
Other than that the turbo is designed to run at a particular shaft speed. To make more boost the shaft speed has to increase.
Obviously if you design an entire turbo to be very efficient at 180K rpm giving 45psi of boost on a particular engine, its not going to operate optimally at 120K rpm and 25psi.
Im sure the UFI turbo is designed to cater for the vast majority of people that are aiming towards that 16-30psi range, and it is up to the user to choose speak to Matt and determine which one is going to work for your setup.
I dont know of one. At about 45psi or there abouts the head becomes a basic flow block anyway.
I think the only real restriction for the engines is torque and what rpm its making it.
I think the only real restriction for the engines is torque and what rpm its making it.
That was how I understood it....
That was how I understood it....
The 18-20psi figure came from Matt, but it was a couple of years ago.
Sydo, it may be the case but I have never seen any type of failure directly related to boost personally, and I know of alot of TD42's running above 40psi for many years now.
Melted/cracked pistons from excessive cylinder temp is pretty much the only failure I have seen.
GU42T, to start with the intake manifold is the biggest problem. If you take this out of the picture by using a plenum with no runners then the head design is the next to choke the flow.
I have not tested it to this point but in passing info on from someone that has, at about 45-48psi or around that point it does not matter how much more boost you jam into the inlet valves the flow into the head has become stagnant.
Even doing oversized valves did not solve the problem for the person that did the testing.
In a perfect world with pretty rich afr's it equates to around 370hp at the wheels, thats all the engine can ever hope to deliver without nos.
GeoffA
It is not hot compressor air that causes problems for diesel engines really.
It is the restriction of the exhaust wheel and housing that causes massive backpressure on the engine which drastically increases cylinder temperatures.
The poor little turbo also exceeds its maximum rated speed which destroy's the bearings, that causes wheel damage slowing the turbo spool up rate down drastically in the start and ends up in a completely dead turbo in the not to distant future.
UFI build their turbo's to a higher standard, and far more suitable to most people's needs than the HT18.
Melted/cracked pistons from excessive cylinder temp is pretty much the only failure I have seen.
GU42T, to start with the intake manifold is the biggest problem. If you take this out of the picture by using a plenum with no runners then the head design is the next to choke the flow.
I have not tested it to this point but in passing info on from someone that has, at about 45-48psi or around that point it does not matter how much more boost you jam into the inlet valves the flow into the head has become stagnant.
Even doing oversized valves did not solve the problem for the person that did the testing.
In a perfect world with pretty rich afr's it equates to around 370hp at the wheels, thats all the engine can ever hope to deliver without nos.
GeoffA
It is not hot compressor air that causes problems for diesel engines really.
It is the restriction of the exhaust wheel and housing that causes massive backpressure on the engine which drastically increases cylinder temperatures.
The poor little turbo also exceeds its maximum rated speed which destroy's the bearings, that causes wheel damage slowing the turbo spool up rate down drastically in the start and ends up in a completely dead turbo in the not to distant future.
UFI build their turbo's to a higher standard, and far more suitable to most people's needs than the HT18.
Thanks mate appreciate the reply, somethings up with mine starts making boost at 1500-1600 rpm, mine is untuned as well. I set the pump timing to 0.7mm as instructed with a dial guage but havent adjusted anything else. Has all the supporting mods 4 inch snorkel, cross country intercooler etc Thought it would still be decent without a proper tune as there is nobody up here in the Pilbara that I would trust to tune a compensated pump. Obviously not... unless there is something else wrong. But engine runs perfect and cant think of anything else.
There is so much difference you can make with just a tune.
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