[davway]

Im changing the front rotors on my 89 GQ wagon so i will also be needing to replace the wheel bearing and bearing seals (may as well while im there).
The question is though, which one do i need?
Seems there are 3 different kits of which the first one i have already purchased (at Bursons) and am now wondering if i got the right one:

WHEEL BEARING KIT NISSAN PATROL PART NO. 4043 (eBay item 140456545384 end time 20-Dec-10 12:47:32 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

Nissan Patrol GQ GU 1989 - 2004 Front Wheel Bearing Kit (eBay item 260697066357 end time 23-Dec-10 10:56:51 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

NISSAN PATROL GQ/GU FRONT WHEEL BEARING KITS (eBay item 140477153809 end time 12-Dec-10 04:21:52 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

The second kit has an extra seal and a new thrust washer and the last kit looks like a bearing and hub kit?

Is the first kit going to do the job?

 

[BeNos]

To be honest I'd also try a local bearing company or even an auto parts shop. Would be just as cheap and normally can get a reputable brand bearing.
Just not 100% convinced some of the eBay stuffs quality.
Imo

 

[davway]

I have already bought a kit from Bursons (the exact same one as the first listing) and it was far from "cheap".
My concern isnt the cost, nor is it the quality, its making sure i have all the right seals, split rings and washers and whatever else that may be required BEFORE i pull everything apart.
The ebay listings are for YOUR benefit so YOU can tell me which is the correct kit - so if i have the wrong kit, i can take it back and get the correct kit.

 

[LordBug]

The basic kit like the one in the first link will do what you need, no worries at all. You'll want to be careful when taking out the seals, so you can reuse them, but they should be fine.

The second kit would be the one I'd take, because it's the same price as the first, and has the extra seal and washer. It's nice to have extras even if you don't need to use them. And it's brand bearings, which helps ease a bit of worry.

The last kit you've linked just has extra crap for the hubs, and ain't worth the price.

It's hell confusing before you do it, but after you've done the hubs you can then fully understand what you did and didn't need. I was the same before I did them on my MQ

Also, are you going to do the GU lockwasher upgrade? It's well worth it in my opinion.

But as BeNos said, check the locals. You can get really good prices, I paid less locally than I would've off eBay, though my swivel hub kit cost more (The service & helpfulness was worth it though!)


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Heh, should've checked before I posted that

Yeah, what you've got will do you fine. As I mentioned, the only thing extra worthwhile is getting the GU bits as well.

 

[davway]

Never heard of the GU lockwasher upgrade so wasnt planning on doing it.
As for buying locally cheaper - theres a reason i shop online but this time decided i didnt want to wait for the post.
For the $90 a side that i paid (with discount), im seriously considering handing them back and saying "no thanks".
I would have thought for that kind of money, i shouldnt be needing to ask questions about if i have all the seals and other bits that i need.
And the service, well i asked for these to be put on hold last Friday (was at work all day) so i could pick them up Saturday morning, only to turn up and no one could find them.
They told me today that they sold them to someone else instead last Friday as they thought i came in anyway to pick them up the same day - even though they had my name written on them and i wasnt the one who ended up with them.

 

[Dale123]

yeah i'd be getting the GU washer kit upgrade, i did it to mine never looked back so much better. basically means the lock nut is screwed into the lock washer, rather than a dicky tab that is totally disposable and often doesnt hold the lock nut in place. cost me 80 bucks from nissan for both sides.

also if your gonna go to the effort of changing rotors and bearings you might as well get a full hub kit and do it all while you've got it off.. so inner hub seals and king pin bearings. its a single day job.

my two cents.

 

[LordBug]

$90 a side? Bloody hell!
Yeah, I'd deffo see about getting a refund, I paid $45 or so a side from Statewide bearings which was the seal and two different sized bearings.

 

[davway]

The invoice suggests that the RRP is $103 a side!
Think ill be taking them back - i can wait for the mail man.

I was originally only going to change the rotors but it was suggested here that i will need to redo the bearing seals if i do, which means changing the bearings while im there.
Not interested in going any further than i need to so the hubs will stay as they are.

 

[BeNos]

You don't need tk change bearings if there is nothing wrong with them. Just repack em.
An jeez Bursons are a rip off I got all the bearings and seals and stuff to rebuild my diff( which are ALOT bigger than wheel bearings) for like 120.
If your on the gold coast. Allied bearings in Nerang are pretty good on price.

 

[davway]

Took them back this morning and got a refund.
Might just pull the rotors and then decide if the bearing need replacing or not.

 

[TB45_Bruce]

If you just repack the bearings it is best to replace the seals as they are difficult to remove without distortion and you want to keep water out of your hubs when doing water crossings. The seals are pretty cheap these days. Standard maintenance is a bearing repack every 40,000 Km, so you will get quick at this job. The bearings will last many repacks, maybe 4 for the outers, more for the bigger inners. Big wheels and offsets don't help.

 

[davway]

Round and round we go.
Can the seals be bought without buying the bearing kit - if so, where from?

 

[LordBug]

Can't see why not.
Give statewide a buzz.
Statewide Bearings - Locations: Victoria

 

[Mo GU]

I found Terrain Tamer very reasonable price for quality bearing n seal kits .cheers MO

 

[davway]

so to get this bearing seal kit, i need to buy a bearing kit which has the seals in it already?

Does this kit have all that is required:
Nissan Patrol GQ GU 1989 - 2004 Front Wheel Bearing Kit (eBay item 260697066357 end time 23-Dec-10 10:56:51 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

 

[Karmar]

Seals Only from ebay

Hi found this if any help to you.

Nissan Patrol GQ Front Axel Seal Kit NEW Hub 4x4 (eBay item 300451967278 end time 30-Nov-10 18:10:02 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-Patro...=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f48619b3

 

[LordBug]

There you go, the second link from Karmar is what you want if you're just going to repack the current bearings.

 

[TB45_Bruce]

I've always just replaced the seal at the back of the big bearing. You can buy them for less money at Nissan or your local auto store than the ebay listing. PM Nizzbits (he is helpful, quick and cheap and only sells genuine) and buy four, two to do the job, two for the vehicle as spares in case you need to strip the hubs on the road.

edit - you need the hub seal, not the inner axle seal listed at patrolapart in the ebay listing from Karmar 2 post back

 

[davway]

Local Nissan has these for $35 each.
Nissan Patrol Axle Seal Free Freight (eBay item 300455172531 end time 10-Dec-10 15:17:13 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats
Guess where im not shopping.

 

[TB45_Bruce]

Local Nissan has these for $35 each.
Nissan Patrol Axle Seal Free Freight (eBay item 300455172531 end time 10-Dec-10 15:17:13 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats
Guess where im not shopping.

But if you told the spare parts man you were doing the bearings, Nissan probably quoted the hub seal (which is what you want) not the inner axle seal, (which is what you are looking at on ebay).