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Zd30 DI pump fuel cut solenoid wire

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Would anyone be able to confirm which of the 6 wires on the diesal pump electrical connector (right above pump as pictured) is the 12v fuel cut solenoid. I'm guessing it might be the small red one.

I need to order a Haynes manual buy I've spent all money on parts, next on the list.

Thanks
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Here is the one (Black/Red)

Many thanks PHD. I will try and find this under the dash

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And the others :
do not get confused between R/B (below) and B/R(above) colours of the wires.

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Thanks PHD. I can't even find the glow plug relay, it's not in the engine bay so I will dig out the dash lower fascia panel tonight.

With a manual switch spliced in between the ECU wire and a ground, I assume this will only turn the glow plugs on when the (momentary) switch is held. Ie the glowplugs won't stay on for an extended period.
the above has nothing to do with the glow plug relay but relates to the wires between the ECU and the injection pump (fuel cut solenoid, which was what your question was about?).

Glow plugs, EC section . Pin 111 of the ECU is the one which "grounds" the glow plugs relay. You could cut and add a manual switch to "ground" this relay and activate the glow plugs" only if and when you want.

And don't ground the ECU pin, as this will NOT work.
It is the relay pin 2 which needs to be grounded through your manual switch. But what if you forget ?? I would NOT do this if I were you.

If you really want to modify, apply the "australian timer mod". It has been widely tested, and for a long time.

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But why would you do this ? I live in the south of France, lived in south of Spain too, and never modified the start sequence of my glow plugs for 23 years on my Patrol. Same stock head. Nobody found any good reason to do this, or did this, in my country, from North to South..
Sorry PHD, I replied to the wrong post.

You have solved the fuel cut solenoid question thanks.

The reason I want a manual override for the glowplug relay is to prevent them staying energised for long periods, as I've noticed the cracked heads issue, whilst not an issue for compression, not on my cylinder head but just trying to do everything in a preventative fashion.

Thanks for your detailed responses
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the above has nothing to do with the glow plug relay but relates to the wires between the ECU and the injection pump (fuel cut solenoid, which was what your question was about?).

Glow plugs, EC section . Pin 111 of the ECU is the one which "grounds" the glow plugs relay. You could cut and add a manual switch to "ground" this relay and activate the glow plugs" only if and when you want.

And don't ground the ECU pin, as this will NOT work.
It is the relay pin 2 which needs to be grounded through your manual switch. But what if you forget ?? I would NOT do this if I were you.

If you really want to modify, apply the "australian timer mod". It has been widely tested, and for a long time.

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But why would you do this ? I live in the south of France, lived in south of Spain too, and never modified the start sequence of my glow plugs for 23 years on my Patrol. Same stock head. Nobody found any good reason to do this, or did this, in my country, from North to South..
PHD if I put a momentary switch as shown in the attached to interrupt the glow plug relay (low current side) will this allow manual activation of the glow plug relay?

One side of the switch will go to the Light green/blue wire, and the other side of the switch also back into the LG/B wire.

Closing my momentary switch in red should allow the glow plug relay to activate the high load side when the switch is pressed I think.
I wish I lived in France

Thanks
Check out my build thread for a glowplug timer, had it for years, mine runs for 20-30 seconds now instead of 5 minutes or 75c, no issues with it and has many saving graces.
thanks GU2, is there any difference between a timer and a momentary switch? I cant see one but just asking in a friendly non argumentative manner. Im trying to minimise costs and the momentary switch is only £2.
and you are going to keep pressing on your momentary switch for at least 30s with a cold motor ? I would not do that. either I would apply the australian mod (and I never did), or do nothing.
true, the thought of holding the button for 30 seconds isnt appealing now. will look into timer mod
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To preserve your head , do not run manual boost control keeping the vanes closed most of the time and do not run excessive boost either.
thanks for this adivce. I am new to the zd30 but have owned rd28 parols before.

Mine is a 2006 with 90k miles showing on the UK odometer (145Kms), I am told the boost control is better on this model than earlier zd30s. For this reason, and the fact I cant really afford £150 for a Dawes valve at this moment, I was going to leave it 'as is' for now- is this risky? I have fitted a boost gauge and egt probe however I have yet to re-run the motor and see if the boost is spiking. I did the boost gauge and egt thermocouple first as these were the orderly recomendations on this forum for NADS.

The motor has 90k miles on it, it was running ok but had an ehaust manifold leak, ive removed the manifold and it was slightly bowed at either end, only about 0.5mm-1mm. I had it machined flat then I rebuilt it all, adding a catch can. I also had the inlet manifold off to clean it (the egr was already blanked but the motor had no catch can). black sludge was minor but present, submerging it in petrol cleaned it easily. I also removed the PITA egr system to clear space, and tied the egr actuator motor head up safely on the bulkhead. I plugged the cooling lines to the egr system which will hopefully improve the cooling duty for the primary part of the motor. I added an aluminium 3 core radiatior, I left the oem water pump and thermostat as I couldnt afford a further £200 right at this moment and they seem to be ok for now. Auxillary belt tensioner was replaced by previous owner. I must say that working on this engine isnt the easiest for access although I have big hands, compared to say an isuzu 3.1td or even the JCB 3,0 Isuzu (4JX1) motor. That said I have now learnt my own 'way in' and sequence/tools for removing parts- access is key and its like a jigsaw puzzle. I have to say that the egr cooler retaining nut on the back of the head (right against the bulkhead) is a complete pain when rounded off and Nissan design engineers (in my own paranoia) do this sort of stuff on purpose.

My problem and mistake I ahve made though, is that I did not prime the turbo oil feed line before bolting it up to the turbo- the two m6 bolts that secure this oil feed/return line to the underside of the turbo are frankly ridiculous to access and i dont want to take it all off again. I am hesistant, but I think I am going to remove the glow plugs and turn the motor over for 5 seconds to prime the oil system. I will leave the HP diesal pump plugged in and firing, because I have had the inlet manifold off and therefore the fuel lines are empty anyway. Will this damage anything? I just dont want to crank it with no fuel and oil and think 5 seconds should be enough time cranking to fill the (new/ empty) oil filter and prime the turbo oil feed?

I have also replaced all the brakes, swivel hubs and bearings, brake lines, suespension geometry excluding panhards, fluids, 2" suspension lift, chassis cleaned and painted, front cross memeber replaced, engine and transmission mounts.
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Removing the glow plug might not prevent (...will not) the motor to start.
I would remove the IP fuse, to make sure no diesel is sent into the cylinder, to make sure the motor does not start, and crank the motor several times to make sure oil gets to the turbo.

Certainly other members better mechanically-minded than myself would provide you with a better advice.
@geeyoutoo maybe ?
Thanks for that advice. I will crank it with the IP de energised and the glow plugs removed to help it turn over quicker and easier
Good point thanks and noted.

My glow plugs are currently removed anyway for replacement

Thanks again for wiring diagram pictures, my next job is to print the entire manual when I'm back in work



Am I stupid. I thought you were meaning "disconnecting", not taking the glow plug off entirely. Of course, with the holes in the cylinders, and lack of compression, the motor will not start. Put some sort of fabric above the holes to avoid to get fuel everywhere if your IP is still powered.

I am lazy. I would have just removed the IP fuse (which is an "anti-theft" too if you replace it by a burnt fuse) to make this quick.
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