If you want both in a GU version, you probably won't get a 4.2 diesel for that price, plus most owners are holding on to thiers so that they can pass it on to their grandchildren's grandchildren. The 4.8 petrol should be available and it's only issue is that it drinks like David Boon on a stinking hot day.

One other thing, the 4.2 only comes in manual and the 4.8 only comes in auto.

Cheers

Ray

 

Thanks for that Ray2008 yeah the drinking of the petrol is no problem im fine with that.

 

G'day there & welcome to the forum,
There are many pro's & con's for both & you could give convincing argument for both really ( as you will find out soon from some response here )... Although very few con's for either engine
What ever you decide you will be happy because with your budget you should be able to get a great vehicle. If you have time to look then i'd say don't rush in - have a good look at the market first then you will find the exact model - & more than likely with some good basic accessories already fitted ...
Check this site for a good market guide - www.carpoint.com.au - Click on the advanced search & narrow down the details & price, year etc of the vehicle you want.

Personnally i'd go with the 4.8 Petrol - it may be a bit more thirsty than the Diesel, but if you factor in servicing costs for both engines then the petrol is arguably in front.... ( but will win hands down on power & torque delivery overall - has POWER IN SPADES ) Test drive both if you can & see what suits you...
Both engines are great & if correctly maintained will do 1/2 a million k's no worries ( Diesel probery do 1 MIL - so maybe a bit better very long term ).
Good luck with your decision mate,
Keep us posted with your choice,
Cheers,
Gavin........

 

what are the spare part like getting with the 4.2 aswell and when buying wat should of things should i look out for.

Nissan still sell parts for the G60..
Their biggest ever selling 4wd engine wont have trouble buying parts for years yet.

edit:
if its only you and missus grab this FFS.. cant understand why so cheap
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33431

 

i was recently having a similar debate actually. I bought my truck only 4 weeks ago and LOVING it. I went the 4.2 Diesel, simply because theyre a rough as guts engine that are strong as buggery and give heaps of torque and heaps of Km's to a tank. I picked up a 2000 model for 21k so with your budget you'd be able to get a really nice 2003 model. But like what's already been said, there's not many being sold because everyone holds onto them. I can see why now.

You say that a thirsty as 4800 isn't an issue for you. But if you ever do decided to do a long tour into the red centre or something similar (which no doubt you will eventually).... then you'll be really struggling in the petrol tank unless you have roof basket full of jerry cans or a spare petrol tanker to tow. Significantly less kay's to a tank than diesel.

wait around till a decent 4.2 comes up, chuck a bigger turbo and exhaust in to up the acceleration a bit, and i promise you you'll never look back.

imo.


TF

 

I've had both and prefer the 4.2. 4.8 is ver y powerful, towing a breeze, 5 speed auto great. Thirsty as all getout. I put it gas (pre gas injection) and had loads of bother.

4.2 is a slug, lots noisier and manual. I love it!! Great for trips and we have done some great ones. Diesel available anywhere. Although petrol is pretty much as well.

It will come down to personal choice and whichever you get you will be happy.

 

hi all,

i'm still new to this but have gone for the 4.8L and converted to injected gas a few weeks back.

so far, on gas, its cheaper to run than my 3.8l v6 comodore was. its working out @ 12c / km on gas and about 24c / km on petrol. around town not towing anything & at this stage running standard size wheels.

since i just got in before the grants were canceled i'm $1800 out of pocket for the conversion and will take 15000km to recover that.

how does the 4.2L works out on a cost / km rate?

macca

 

hi all,

i'm still new to this but have gone for the 4.8L and converted to injected gas a few weeks back.

so far, on gas, its cheaper to run than my 3.8l v6 comodore was. its working out @ 12c / km on gas and about 24c / km on petrol. around town not towing anything & at this stage running standard size wheels.

since i just got in before the grants were canceled i'm $1800 out of pocket for the conversion and will take 15000km to recover that.

how does the 4.2L works out on a cost / km rate?

macca

You'd have to set a standard fuel price befoe anyone could compare.

Cheers

Ray

 

I thought the pre-2003 where all 4.5L petrols?

You can also get the ST in both auto and manual in petrol, but only manual in the 4.2. So if you want an auto, decision is easy.

If you are mainly running around town with the occasional trip on the weekend, I would go the petrol as it is a much more refined drive with more power for zipping around the city. If you intend to do more long-haul touring then the 4.2 diesel.

You will pick up a petrol much cheaper, and with gas than the 4.2 Diesel, also the 4.5/4.8 on gas will be much cheaper to run. (I am getting around 16L/100Km in the 4.2).

So possibly the 4.5/4.8 is the better solution for you.

- David.

 

G'day again all,
Check out the poll adzy - 50/50 mate ! Maybe toss a coin hey

Ray - can get the 4.8 Petrol in manual as well - but the majority seem to have the Auto option.....

Dave - 4.8 was available some time in 2001...

Cheers,
Gavin.....

 

i bought an 02 model ST 4.8 bout 4 weeks ago 90000kms for $25000 with heaps of accessories, it has vapour injected gas, and i love it. im averaging about 350kms out of the gas tank (90lt useable) around town so they arent that bad. i was looking at the 4.2 diesels when i bought this one but couldnt find one in same condition with low kays for less than $30000.

 

Assuming that petrol and diesel cost the same (they do here at the moment) then the 4.2 in stock standard trim with standard size wheels gets around 12.5L/100km, so that (at $1.25/L) works out at around 16c/km which is on the lower side of halfway between the above figures for petrol and gas. Not sure what $/L that was worked out on though!
mates Petrol is around 18L/100km so that is 22.5c/km.

 

G'day Gu4.8,
Let me guess - yours is Auto ? right ?

Cheers & welcome to the forum mate,
Gavin....

 

hey gavin
yeah it is.
how'd ya guess?

 

Ray - can get the 4.8 Petrol in manual as well - but the majority seem to have the Auto option.....

Cheers,
Gavin.....

They must have dropped that option at some time, because it's only auto now.

Cheers

Ray

 

OK, wonder when & why they dropped the manual.... I reckon a few potential new buyers would still look for the manual option :headwall:
Anyway it was a very probable guess to say that your's would be an Auto Gu4.8 as most are - Manuals seem very rare.
Cheers,
Gavin......

 

Hi im new to this forum and i am looking buying a patrol. I am unsure if i should go for the 4.2 Diesel or 4.8 petrol. i have roughly 25-30k and looking for one that is around the 2000-2003 with around 200k kms on it.

could anyone help me with the pro and cons on both. i looking a going off road however im not climbing everst and crossing the nile. just more fun weekends with the misus and mates.

what are the spare part like getting with the 4.2 aswell and when buying wat should of things should i look out for.


Thanks for the help

Personly if i had that sort of cash and some time up my sleeve i would defently go a 4.2 however it may take some time to track one down as compared to the gas guzzler & If fuel cost or range from stock tanks does not bother you and you want a bit of get up and go then the 4.8 may suit you better but belive me petrol patrols suck fuel like its going out of style!.. If you have an idea in your head of how bad the fuel consumption is with a 4.8 auto times it by ten and you might not shock yourself so much if you get one, In saying that you will save a fair bit up front on a 4.8

As far as parts go for the 4.2.. Well thats the reason most people own them!!!, They all but never need parts .. They just go and go and go.. and keep on going, the only thing you need to do if you want it to keep it for a long time is regular oil/ filter changes. My last 4.2 went from 200thousandk,s to 500 and the only thing that ever needed a spanner putting to it was well.... Nothing , Well i had to repair the alternator at 300thousand but thats to be expected on any engine.. an alternators an alternator


Anyway at least your not looking at getting a landcruiser which ever way you go . Hehe




Dave

 

Go the 4.8, there is no comparrison with the 4.2.
If 4L per 100 is the deciding factor then maybe a Hyundai Getz would be more suited.

And for the record, the ZD30 (by now) will have been the greatest seller in the Patrol range.

Also, if you are not doing severe offroad, the check out the 100 series 4.7 V8, very very smooth.

 

As far as parts go for the 4.2.. Well thats the reason most people own them!!!, They all but never need parts .. They just go and go and go.. and keep on going, the only thing you need to do if you want it to keep it for a long time is regular oil/ filter changes. My last 4.2 went from 200thousandk,s to 500 and the only thing that ever needed a spanner putting to it was well.... Nothing , Well i had to repair the alternator at 300thousand but thats to be expected on any engine.. an alternators an alternator
Dave

The 4.2 diesel is a good engine, but it's not completely immune to problems and it does require more servicing over its life than latter day diesels.

Cheers

Ray

 

If I had the coin when I bought my troll I would have went for the :bowdown: 4.2 Deisel:driving: :victory:
At least with the money I saved I could spend it on mods

 

The 4.2 diesel is a good engine, but it's not completely immune to problems and it does require more servicing over its life than latter day diesels.

Cheers

Ray

How hards an oil change to do

My old one was immune from problems and i put 300thousand k,s on it and a big aftermarket turbo

What servicing costs?.. You mean oil and filters?


Dave

 

Gotta agree with above - and new Diesels seem to be getting more & more horrible to service & maintain... ie - precise & expensive oils, extreemly hi-pressure pumps that can fail with the slightest impurities - with massive cost, fuel lines that "need" to be replaced if "cracked", filters in exhaust that fail if wrong oil used - once again with massive cost...... + There is more that could be added to that list.

Anyway - above really only applies to new common rail engine - with new emisson laws..... Doesn't really apply to the "old" TD42, so is not relevent to this thread or the original ???.

I suppose the facts are that adzy has stated that fuel consumption is NOT a problem for him - so TB48 ok there.....
If he is after Auto trans only - then TD42 is out...

Once again look at the poll 50/50 - i reckon that he has 3 options here,
(1) - Go with the engine that wins in the poll - if it's not 50/50,
(2) - Flip a coin if it is 50/50 - or flip a coin anyway,
(3) - Go with your gut felling.....
Either choice you will win & be happy mate -
Cheers,
Gavin........

 

Gotta agree with above - and new Diesels seem to be getting more & more horrible to service & maintain... ie - precise & expensive oils, extreemly hi-pressure pumps that can fail with the slightest impurities - with massive cost, fuel lines that "need" to be replaced if "cracked", filters in exhaust that fail if wrong oil used - once again with massive cost...... + There is more that could be added to that list.Cheers,
Gavin........

Actually, All of those things can and do go wrong with all diesel engines, be they new or old technology. I don't know how any diesel servicing shops ever got started if the old diesels were so reliable.

The newer diesels are in fact much more cost effective to maintain and run, with longer servicing intervals, longer injector life, better efficiency etc. It's just that many refuse to accept this.

Cheers

Ray

 

you must not have seen a $10000 injector pump bill on a 4 year old car.

 

I reckon that as as percentage of production, there will be more "old school" Diesels STILL running long term - with more K's & less money spent over-all than the new tech Diesels.... I accept the realities & have experience with both.... Only time will tell - but so far i reckon no one can deny the proven record of reliability & flexability of the old tech Diesels..
Anyway that's your opinion & this is mine Ray - no problem with that mate, ....
Cheers,
Gavin.......