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Any updates on QLD Mod laws

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#1 ·
Hey Guys,

Have been plowing through past threads and the QDOT website in regards to legal suspension mods.

Talking to guys at some local tyre and wheel shops and have been told that as of 1/11/12 you can now increase overall rolling diameter by up to 50mm (used to be 15mm)

According to some older posts there was talk that the QLD rules were possibly going to align with other states or national standard, so does the change in tyre size signal the start of more sweeping changes or is it just limited to a few? It would be nice to have a black and white answer as opposed to the grey on the website. (reminds me of AS3000 electrical standard, here's the guideline and interpret how you like but if something happens and we don't agree, look out!!!)

I am looking to mod my suspension and was leaning towards 3" however the insurance implications have me concerned.

The QDOT site has the code of practice docs, but the last update was July this year and the quality of the pdf's is well, of government standard.

Has anybody heard anything that can clarify where things are heading or not?

Cheers

Jason
 
#2 ·
Probably best to head in to one of their offices, wait the usual hour to see someone and get it straight. From the horses mouth. This way you will have piece of mind with your insurance.

Don't forget to update your policy as you complete the mods.
 
#3 ·
From what I understand, there will be a maximum vehicle alteration height that is calculated by combined tyre size and suspension lift. From memory it was 75mm or 100mm. Not sure if it's been fully ratified.

Cheers

Ray
 
#4 ·
queersland being the backward state it is i highly doubt they will adopt ncop any time soon. wish they would cause it would make my car all but legal with just about everything ive done.
but yeah ring the dot and ask to speak to a technical advisor or vehicle inspector and ask him. anyone else in them buildings is lucky to know what day of the week it is.
 
#6 ·
farking morons haha.
if they would just accept the ncop and be done with it it would make life sooooo much easier. at the moment a rig in nsw is legal till it crosses the border into queersland then its a mobile defect. but perfectly safe in every other state
 
#7 ·
Well, qld's never been the state to to be innovative!

Oh well back off to work today do hopefully by the time I get back we may have some good news.

The DOT well probably be the last to know :confused:

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#9 ·
So after having a read of the ncop it looks like (please correct me if I am wrong), my 33's will be legal, my body lift will not require certification but my suspension lift is still no closer to getting engineered.
 
#11 ·
According to the approved person I was talking with yesterday, the changes may not be as good as we had hoped for. I was told that we will actually be worse off as although we will be able to finally have a 50mm increase in tire it will come at the cost of a suspension lift. Not sure on body lifts but in relation to tires and suspension it will/may be 50mm of one OR the other. Fingers crossed this isn't the case...
 
#14 ·
According to the approved person I was talking with yesterday, the changes may not be as good as we had hoped for. I was told that we will actually be worse off as although we will be able to finally have a 50mm increase in tire it will come at the cost of a suspension lift. Not sure on body lifts but in relation to tires and suspension it will/may be 50mm of one OR the other. Fingers crossed this isn't the case...
Can legally run 2" lift (as always) and 33"s... That's awesome news for most of us...

Up to 75mm (combo of sus and tyres) doesn't need certification...

you can get a larger lift/tyre combo of up to 125mm total lift certified.
 
#13 ·
Basicly no change for queensland

50mm suspension lift
50mm bodylift
and 25mm tyre causing lift with an overall 50mm increase in diameter
Its a huge change for QLD :confused:

1/ We can now legally run 33"s (used to be 14mm increase, now 50mm increase).
2/ We can now legally run larger lifts than 2" and / or 33"s (with certification and lane change tests)

These are the things that most affect us and have held us back for years!
 
#16 ·
So when taking about certification, I assume that's an engineered report.

So if I went for a 3"lift and used drop boxes instead of castor correction bushes I'd be fine as long as it passes certification....

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#17 ·
Hey guys ,
My old man is in crash investigation at boondal , he's looked t this subject and it appears all the legislation is written , they are backed up a bit as its taking a while to go through and approve everything for the go ahead , I believe they are changing everything to match other states , so it will be country wide .
And it would be either 4"lift an 33's possibly 35's will be legal .

But a a quote " nothing is certain until it is approved and in writing .
 
#22 ·
Hey guys ,
My old man is in crash investigation at boondal , he's looked t this subject and it appears all the legislation is written , they are backed up a bit as its taking a while to go through and approve everything for the go ahead , I believe they are changing everything to match other states , so it will be country wide .
And it would be either 4"lift an 33's possibly 35's will be legal .

But a a quote " nothing is certain until it is approved and in writing .

Crikey's i hope this is the case ! I'm quiet happy to run a 4" lift with 285 onroad and 315 offroad ! My fingers are crossed ! :)
 
#18 ·
Hi, I have spent most of today going over what is going to happen and talking to Vehicle Standards, here is the way I see it.

Tyres:- 50mm over what is on the tyre placard, so 33 look good on some of the larger vehicles.

Vehicle Height
:- Maximum of 125mm. This is made up of 50mm suspension, tyres 50mm (diameter) & body blocks 50mm. (Some other States are 150mm in total)

Suspension:- No more then 50mm.

Vehicle height:- Increases over 75mm will require an LS9 (Design) & LS10 (Modification) plate fitted, this will also include a lane change test. LS9 & LS10 are Queensland only.

Body Lift:- If tyres and suspension is standard a K3 will be required.

Roll Cages:- What I can make out, you can no longer approve cages starting at the "A" Pillar. But if it has already been started before the 1st November it can still be approved up until 30th April. If I was plating I would be asking for proof of when started.

Motors:- There are now an extra 2 Codes to comply with, now have a total of 3 for the motor & one for the Turbo/Supercharger. More on this one later. But what I have been told the 4wd's can only have upto a 5.8lt fitted before approval is needed.

Cheers
David
 
#20 ·
Thanks for that Dave.

As for previous approval, it will not require recertification.
 
#23 ·
I run a 3" lift suspension and springs no body and will be putting 35's under, based on the above posts this should be legal? without the required plates/tests etc

If not what do you need to do and go to get the mod plates and what not?
 
#25 ·
Hey guys ,
Update ,
My old man talked to bob Jane an they had said that they had meetings with all tyre company's and that the new laws will come into effect in the next 2 to 3 weeks :O :D

Good times !!!!
 
#26 ·
Hello Sean

The new regs allow only:-

1. 2” susp lift
2. 1” lift with larger tyres (ie: 50mm overall diameter increase in tyre)
3. 2” body lift – this must be tested for lane change test if combined with above susp / tyre lift

I cannot therefore approve 4” susp lift.

My charges are:-

• Engineering / travel = $120/hr
• Mod plate – stamped = $60 or machine engraved = $120

+ GST

Points #1 and 2 above will cost only 1 hr + plate if you bring the vehicle to me.

Point #3 will be much more expensive if lane change test reqd – est $1000 for points #1,2 and 3 together.

Also – as this is a new mod code we engineers must now apply to QT to be allowed to approve this code. Therefore there will be a period now that no engineers can approve this anyway until we get our code approval from QT.



Cheers



For further information on all automotive modifications and engineering please have a look at our website: - DB Autotech Mod Plate Compliance


Regards

David Blythe
DB Autotech
0407 756 870
david@dbautotech.com.au
DB Autotech Mod Plate Compliance


Bloody may as well drive a sports car ! Pfft i'll be driving illegally then ! :(
 
#27 ·
So there is no need for lane change test if you don't get a body lift.

35s are legal now as they are 50mm bigger than stock tyres.
 
#28 ·
Just downloaded the new QCOP in regards to lifts the scope is there for lifts above 50mm but less than 125mm the code is LS10 and starts on page 35.

Now it looks like I am going to be screwed over by the VDC on my trol..:(

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#30 ·
Next they'll tell us we need to do a 4wd course to own a 4wd... I tell you I better not get pulled over in the next few days I might just kick someone in the nuts..
 
#32 · (Edited)
There is no need for a Compliance plate if you are doing suspension & tyres only.

Approval (LS9 Design & LS10 Modification) is only required if you are going over the 75mm. Meaning if you are doing items 1, 2 & 3 approval is needed.

David Metcalfe
Approved Person 2868
Morayfield
So if I was to do a 3" lift plus add 33"tyres I would need a certificate but as I said earlier the VDC needs to be recalibrated for the increased lift then that would mean a lane change test.

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#35 ·
Sorry about that last comment re mod plates.

If you just do a suspension (50mm) no plate required.

If you just do tyres (50 diameter increase) no plate required.

If you do tyres & suspension a LS10 is required. The Modification Plate can be issued by an Approved Person.

If you include the body lift with above you will require an LS9 (Design) this will include a lane change test. This is carried out by an Engineer approved by Queensland Transport. He will/should be able to also issue the LS10 (Modification).

Cheers
David Metcalfe
Approved Person 2868
Morayfield
0418 745 830
 
#36 ·
agree with extreme's post

MAX allowed body change height is 125 mm

CONSISTING of following

up to 50mm tyre size
up to 50mm spring lift
and to total together no more than 125 mm so a body lift of 50mm if you increase tyre and spring size by 50 mm each

so 50 mm tyre only increase static height by 25 mm
50mm spring is 50 mm

combined is 75mm no engineering required
to fit 50 mm body lift blocks requires engineering- ie lane change test etc == about $1100 plus blocks

NISSAN states the tyre size for 89 t0 98 gq's to be between 750 mm & 812 mm as optional sizes
812 +50 =862 divide by 25.4 =33.937 inches for new max tyre diameter