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Importance Of Winch Maintenance

5.2K views 22 replies 17 participants last post by  Sooty_10  
#1 ·
Fellas one of the interesting things about my current project build up is this time I've been able to buy new gear and see how it wears over time. Its been two decades for me in this hobby but I havent had the budget till now to buy a new 4wd with new accessories and go from there.

So I was kinda surprised about how much maintenance winches need. I have a Warn M12000 winch. I look after it. Keep the cable nice and so on. Its now two years old. I can think of only one single occasion where the winch was in muddy water for a period of time - I'd say 30 minutes or so.

So anyway cos the winch is the sort of gear you need it to work, and it just cant fail, I decided to get the winch serviced. Heres what was found:

1. Winch still full of muddy water two weeks later
2. Mud and crud all through the planetary gearsets and so on
3. Two bearings holding the main shaft had seized

Basically it required a thorough rebuild and two new bearings

I'm dam glad I got it serviced now I never thought it would be that bad

Anyway its food for thought for me, just one incident and it did this.
 
#2 ·
Its a warn thing i had the same trouble with both my warns they just don't seal them.
Both my front and rear chinese winches are still good after many dunkings.
I recently stripped my ridge rider winch and not an ounce of dirt in it.very well sealed. All i found was 1 dry bearing on the shaft between the planetary set and motor.
 
#3 ·
My 20 yr old highmount spent about 1/2 hour under water one weekend, I stripped it about 3 weeks later and there was only a few drops of condensation in the motor and the oil was clean, I changed it anyway, was clean fresh water though.
 
#6 ·
Have a Warn Winch on my ute and noticed the last time I used it the brake didn't hold.
Pulled it apart to service it and found that water had entered at some time and not drained away leaving a tide mark.
Closer inspection revealed that when it had been originally assembled (have had the ute from new with winch fitted) the end covers had been incorrectly assembled with the drain holes at the top.:roll:
Something worth checking, if one was assembled wrong there's bound to be more.
Managed to clean/lubricate and back to working as it should.

Cheers
Peter
 
#7 ·
Any good installer either knows factory GU bars mount the winch upside down or checks to see where the drainage holes are.
 
#8 ·
X2

That's not an assembly fault of the winch it's a fitting fault from failure to give a chit about someone else's car and winch.
 
#14 ·
Help me understand please Lee. Can I be mounted in either direction? So I just get under it in my garage crawler, unbolt it, flip it, and bolt it back up so the holes drain via gravity? Or does it need to be pulled apart and assembled in another way??
 
#9 ·
The warn on my daily and the one on my race rig i have fully sealed the motors with rtv and drilled and tapped a one touch fitting in. than just run the breather into the engine bay.
They spend alot of time in water and never had an issue.
Dont trust the factory seals
 
#13 ·
Ive had a tigerz11 on the front of my gu for years. It works everytime and its been through some pretty ordinary situations.

Last time i looked inside it was clean as.

I still dont get why people buy warns and have to service them so much? But im sure they will justify it somehow...
 
#19 ·
Thanks everyone. Since I have a warn m12000 in an arb bar, I had a good look and it seems to me it can only be mounted one way and Im going to have to modify the housing with new drain holes and seal up the original ones. It doesnt seem a matter of just poor installation. Or am I missing something?
 
#22 ·
I have a warn manufacturered 'tabor' Xd9000 which was installed when I purchased the vehicle. Would have been fitted from new as is ex government vehicle (2012). It is mounted inside a poly smart bar, and because of that, ie no provision for hands to engage gearbox, the lever handle (twist knob no lever as such) is on the bottom.Question is, other than being a pain when bogged, how do I tell where the drain holes are and if they are in the wrong spot what can I do as I cannot spin the gearbox?
 
#23 ·
My suggestion would be to pull it out and have a look. And while you have it out pull the gearbox off give it a clean and grease then inspect the motor. You'll soon know how it's held up and been fitted. This I would say is a must if your car has been anywhere near a water crossing or mud hole, especially been an ex-government vehicle.