It's fycking BS. I do not understand what problem exists that will be fixed with that dumb fyckin ban

 

This country is going to **** fast!

 

Ah yes.

The old 'ban firewood collection to ensure there is more dry fuel for an even more catastrophic bushfire in coming summers' trick.

Genius.

And we elect these muppets.

 

I don't vote any more due to all the muppets!

Cheers

Justin

 

Some politcal deal/favour done somewhere?

Cheers

Justin

 

Damn I didn't know you Victorians had had it so easy up until now, when I was living in central west NSW years ago we could collect wood quite easily and basically any time without a permit, then in the later 90's the local Councils put on heavy restrictions and you had to have a permit which lasted only 2 days from memory.

I could drive past cleared forestry where there was plenty of waste timber and good stuff too. Like Leethal intimates, it was quite heavy ground cover for next years bush fire but we were not allowed to touch it.

 

I'm sure the reasons are so commercial collectors can charge us an arm and a leg for a bag at the servo. It's also the reason I have lockable tool boxes on the back of my ute. The ban has been loosely in the books for a few years now anyway.

Ain't nothing for free anymore. Charge us for camping alone with the wood that is needed. I bet these idiots haven't camped or had an open fire place at home ever.

Campers who traditionally collect free wood opportunistically for their holiday fires may need to buy wood commercially before they enter parks.

 

When something like this starts in one place, it doesn't take long to spread.

Before you know it, you'll pull up to camp on your way to Cape York for a three week holiday, and you're not allowed to grab a couple of long dead branches off the floor on your way and stick them on top of the camper or roof rack.

But I'm sure you could buy some wood from the local parks & wildlife mob who are also charging you to camp on the ground that you, as a taxpayer, already own...

Where is this heading?

It's ridiculous. Firewood collection is good for reducing bushfire fuel, every little bit helps, I'm gobsmacked that this has happened. I even checked it wasn't April 1st when I read the link.

 

Total BS. having to buy firewood to go camping, please.

We need a public uprising against these so called politicians. First wanting to ban collecting firewood now they want to sting us twice for income tax. well I for one have had enough.

bring down the government, install administrators. The country is turning to poo under all these self interested clowns.

 

It's got me how they think they are going to police this.

Maybe every piece of bought firewood will need a barcode or something to differenciate from what came from the ground out in the bush!

Does this also mean all council arborist workers will need to leave cut brunches on nature stripes. I know for fact one day I came home after work one day to find Maroondah council had done just that. It took them a week or more to come and clean it up. In the meantime I collected all the decent off cuts and threw them in my woodshed ready for next winter.

 

Does this also mean all council arborist workers will need to leave cut brunches on nature stripes. I know for fact one day I came home after work one day to find Maroondah council had done just that. It took them a week or more to come and clean it up. In the meantime I collected all the decent off cuts and threw them in my woodshed ready for next winter.

They often have to do this under a local policy or an agreement with the State Gov in the name of habitat....

 

What drives me mad is where I live near the state forest I watch ferals take wood and then sell it on the main road for 100 bucks(unemployed bums) . In my case it's my only form of heating I have no gas and only a wood fire to heat our place . There needs to be exceptions for people when's it's there only form of heating . I have no choice .
Also people will be illegally take wood now more than ever . I have noticed an increase lately and it's not even winter ...

 

That's one thing doing for the NSW state forests.
Can still camp anywhere, just roll out the swags and awning.

 

So there has to be some reasons for this, even if it is BS, there must be something behind it to carry into law. Is it some sort of liability thing cos people are injuring themselves with chainsaws on public land or something?

 

Maybe a way of banning all indoor wood burning?

I had a lovely fire last night actually.

Cheers

Justin

 

The bans of firewood are a joke.

A lot of the problems start out with small time, semi commercial blokes who abuse the privilege of free wood collection areas and basically come in with light trucks and small loaders then clear the joint out. Ruins it for everyone especially those of us who responsibly collect enough wood for our camp fire and leave anything we don't burn in a neat pile at the site for the next campers to use.

Over regulation, our tax dollars at work.

 

It's just a small step towards banning wood fires at home altogether , just like gun control ...." Small Steps...." and before you know it!......

 

We all live in a nanny state, we are been told what we can and can't do. But its ok for the goverment to allow loging in our hard wood state forest for woodmchips and pulp mills. It kind of do as I say not as I do.
The goverment would of spent over a million dollars doing a recharch and produced a 5000 Page report on environmental studies and some other impact studys that no one is going to ever read. The reall reason would of been some sort of emissions reduction, this would been to off set some industry pollution. the servo wood would have 10% tax on it, again win win for the goverment.

I also heard they are going to put E-tags and speed cameras in the sate forest, only problem was the greens stoped them in the lower house because some indagerded flee that wear native to the area wear in danger of becoming exstict.

 

not sure if this is a true story - i've heard of blokes ring barking trees for camping next year ..

 

Back in the day, was a common thing to do for those camping at One Tree Hill.

 

Wow,what blithering idiot came up with that law?

Don't worry guys, bushfire season will take care of it...

 

We haven't been able to collect firewood in the National Park we camp in for as long as i remember. The ranger stopped us on the way into the park last trip. He was just about to give the no collecting firewood spiel when he spotted the 6 bags of firewood on the camper trailer's rack. He left us alone after that


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Ah well if this ever comes to WA I'll be right... Just get me some of those servo bags (from all you poor blokes that have to buy em) and fill them with wood from the 100s of 1000s of trees we planted on our property in the late 80s early 90s to try and stop the salt... Course 80% of the trees are now dead (and the salt nearly completely gone from massive drains we dug in the early 00s that has done the trick).

I see the black market firewood industry becoming a thing... You blokes chuck me some spare bags and it'll help me get some paddocks back... Win win!

 

Sitting around the campfire with family or mates or more importantly keeping you house warm in winter could become a thing of the past what an excellent idea what will be next.

 

Can anyone think of any part of our lives that are not subject to some form of regulation or control?

Be pretty much pushed to I'd say.......lol.

Cheers......Lionel.

 

I have no regulation or control of my farts. Does that count.
Troy started it.

 

I'll pay that one....lol.

That bloody 45 must share part of the blame!

 

To give us northerners without internal wood heating an idea, what would it cost to feed a wood stove through winter at commercial pricing?

 

Depends on a few things like how big your house is an how efficient your heater is etc. My parents have a good heater and a fairly small house and they use around 6 - 8 cubic metres in a season. Wood price varies depending on the quality and type but it ranges from $100 - $150 per cubic metre.

They are farmers though so they usually manage to drop a few trees a year either on their property or on nearby properties plus I hunt around and get them 1-2 metres a season along with a few blokes from work who love cutting wood...

 

I know myself from last weekend in Warburton. I was ready to get firewood, lubed up the chainsaw, sharpened the chain and had axe in hand but we were told its now illegal. So we had to buy it. 4 days camping cost us $140 in fire wood. Bloody silly when there was HEAPS of fallen dead wood EVERYWHERE!!. I usually just fill the back of the GQ with trees we find fallen across tracks let alone go looking for it where I could fill a semi.

I used to laugh at idiots who bough firewood. Now I'm one of them by no fault of my own.

 

I know myself from last weekend in Warburton. I was ready to get firewood, lubed up the chainsaw, sharpened the blade and had axe in hand but we were told its now illegal. So we had to buy it. 4 days camping cost us $140 in fire wood. Bloody silly when there was HEAPS of fallen dead wood EVERYWHERE!!. I usually just fill the back of the GQ with trees we find fallen across tracks let alone go looking for it where I could fill a semi.

I used to laugh at idiots who bough firewood. Now I'm one of them by no fault of my own.

Sharpening the chain as opposed to blade would be a good start

 

This adds a little more clarity to the issue for better or worse

Firewood collection - DELWP