[Toyeatre]

Depends on what fiddled one your after, if its the STD off the shelf 16G then once modded they spool around 300 Rpm sooner and combined with tuning are a VERY good match for the midragne TD42 and of course you want bigger ,i can do that as well.

Does that mean any off the shelf 16G TD05 will be ok to fit? So if someone wanted.. they could slowly, piece by piece source the parts required for fitting to the TD42 and fit it up themselves.. then get it Dyno'd??

Or do the TD05's have different sizes in and out like the 2860's??

 

[ToughDiesels]

Does that mean any off the shelf 16G TD05 will be ok to fit? So if someone wanted.. they could slowly, piece by piece source the parts required for fitting to the TD42 and fit it up themselves.. then get it Dyno'd??

Or do the TD05's have different sizes in and out like the 2860's??

TD05's come in a huge variety of combinations just like any other manufacturer. So its best to work out what you want from your setup "honestly" and get advice from there.

But yes what you have planned is possible

 

[tagz281]

Just thought i would post something up here for people that might be interested in a good upgrade for their TD42's.

I have been looking at a turbo upgrade on my factory turbo Gu ute and after playing with a modified factory unit i still wasn't happy with the way it performed down low.

I was looking at something in the garret range but after talking with Matt from United Fuel decided to give one of his TD05's a go.

I fitted and tuned it myself which was easy enough with some help from Matt over the phone. If i was local i would taken it to them for the tune.

I recently got back after a trip away and the results are impressive. There is no lag yet doesn't run out of puff higher up. It feels stronger in every part of the rev range than both the factory and modified HT18 that it replaced.

My mates wagon collapsed a front wheel bearing and i ended up trailering it home and even towing on 35" silverstone extremes it performed well enough with good egt's and no overheating issues considering.

Anyway i am very happy with the outcome and the service from Matt at United.

Simon

 

[ToughDiesels]

Thanks for the feedback mate, great to hear some good results:victory:

 

[2jz929]

I noticed you only dynoed the high flowed stocko on standard boost and it made an extra 25kw/70nm of the stock one. Would this continue to improve with more boost to the 40kw/135nm at 15psi the others achieved? Obviously the bigger back pressure will begin to effect it as boost goes up.

Im guessing temporarily running temps to over 800degrees isn't a concern?

Cheers.

 

[ToughDiesels]

I noticed you only dynoed the high flowed stocko on standard boost and it made an extra 25kw/70nm of the stock one. Would this continue to improve with more boost to the 40kw/135nm at 15psi the others achieved? Obviously the bigger back pressure will begin to effect it as boost goes up.

Im guessing temporarily running temps to over 800degrees isn't a concern?

Cheers.

The test was done to show just how high the EGT's will get in a factory turbo TD42T with ma and pa kettle towing there van without even realising it. If you go to 600 or 650 post turbo on some setups you WILL be at 800 degree pre turbo. Different turbo report different cross temperatures across the turbine.

Unlikely to continue efficiently at higher boost levels and i would suggest capping the boost at 13psi for charge air temp reasons on the HT18.

 

[2jz929]

Just asking because i have a pre-turbo pyro, and the absolute maximum i can get it too is 700degrees, but this is extremely difficult to get to. If i can temporarily go over this (before i drop back etc), does this mean i can put some more fuel in?
It rarely goes over 550degrees driving every day, and climbs extremely slowly if at all once it gets up to 600degrees. I really have to put it under abnormal circumstances to get it up to 700degrees (up a hill, 3rd gear, flat to the floor, 4000rpm).

Cheers.

 

[ToughDiesels]

Just asking because i have a pre-turbo pyro, and the absolute maximum i can get it too is 700degrees, but this is extremely difficult to get to. If i can temporarily go over this (before i drop back etc), does this mean i can put some more fuel in?
It rarely goes over 550degrees driving every day, and climbs extremely slowly if at all once it gets up to 600degrees. I really have to put it under abnormal circumstances to get it up to 700degrees (up a hill, 3rd gear, flat to the floor, 4000rpm).

Cheers.

I would suggest 750 for very short bursts if its a factory turbo engine????

But really should stick to 700, if it takes a matter of minutes to get to 700 then yeah add a little fuel and you may find it will do the job your asking a little quicker and EGT's may not rise much at all.

 

[Loktndirty]

I too am another United TD05 convert. I went down the modified HT18 path too until mine died in a big way. I went the United tickled TD05 for awhile and was duely impressed. Boosted from 1100rpm and just keeps on pulling. Couldn't get EGT's over 550-600 even in sand dunes running 33" Baja claws. Is a bit thirsty when you use the right boot a lot but my tyres definitely don't help and hey who cares about fuel when your having fun ay?

Overtaking is a breeze without having to even change down to fourth.

I have since gotten used to the torque and as always happens I wanted a bit more. Spoke to Matt again and have changed to an 18G wheel and housing and I am really happy with the results. Haven't had it back for long but highway driving it's a whole new truck. Only had a quick bash on some sand tracks going for a surf and the truck pulls hard in 4wd.

Going to be giving it a real good go over Easter break so we'll see what happens.

Cheers for all your help Matt. I'll keep ya posted on how it's going and I'll be back once I sort a bigger snorkel out. See what happens then.

 

[1TUFGQ]

Any updates on this?

 

[Loktndirty]

I have just returned from a 1500 odd km round trip over Easter. Black top driving as well as some fun at WA's 4wd park. I couldn't be happier with my TDO5 set up (18G wheel and 23 psi). No changing gear when overtaking even with a ute full of camping gear (approx 230kg). Overtaking in 5th is not a problem. EGT's never got past 520C when pushing hard. On the way back with 100kg of Jerry cans empty truck cruised at 110 no worry with EGT's sitting on average 300-350C, stab of the foot and at 130-140 no worries.

Hillclimbs offroad are a breeze now. Car has heaps more low down torque, it just wants to idle up almost everything. Any problems just put the right boot in. I used to average around 20l/100km and I returned about 18l/100km on this trip with 33" baja claws & 4.11's and new turbo setup.Too much right boot kinda throws the economy out the window though as expected.

IMHO i reckon these turbos are the way to go for me and should suit others for sure. Plenty of room to make more torque if needed and hopefully should last a lot longer than the BB types. Only time will tell

 

[jfarsang]

Did you find a big difference between the 16G and 18G ?

I've got access to a clean 16G I'm looking at tossing in my TD42 manual. Hoping that the early spoolup will make the gears a little better.

 

[Loktndirty]

Mate I noticed heaps of difference between the 2. The 16G is definitely a massive improvement over the stock or high flowed factory turbo but the 18G is a big change again. I'm still running stock injector pump, it's just been adjusted to suit my tune and keep EGT's in spec.

Definitely worth doing either I reckon.

 

[gun32gtr]

Toughd im looking at turbo install on my 92 gq wagon. Im after good towing power with good fuel economy. Ill have top mount 3 inch straight through zorst ob a top mount manifold. Which of ur td05 would u recommend. I was going to buy gt2860 but reading this has open my eyes. Ill also have snorkle and 33s. Could i get a pm with price on turbo u recommend cheers

 

[1TUFGQ]

I'm also swayed by ALL i have read over the last couple of years, I follow the disco potato threads and read all other info. My choice is now a TD05 as well and I would also be interested to see your personal recommendation for similar driving situations.

What will work for me is boost from 1200rpm through to 2400-2800rpm, standard GQ pump turned up a fraction and boost to about 10-12psi. I'm leaning towards the 18g.

My biggest hassle is finding someone over here who can supply TD05 with 18g in kit form ...otherwise I'll be importing from Aust. Apologies for going off track .

 

[gun32gtr]

I also will be running stock pump just turned up 1/4 to 1/2 turn more. Prob about 13-16 psi if possible

 

[1TUFGQ]

Bumping bumping.

 

[kruzen84]

this thread has sparked my interest... once my gu is setup the way i want i would like to search for some more go (mechanically its stock).. really just want to compensate for the additional gear and weight added to it over the buildup etc....

 

[ToughDiesels]

Sorry guys been flat out in the shop !! I will reply to all your questions on the morning when I get to the shop and can give you a good answer

 

[bambill]

Very interested in changing my turbo aswell.
I've got a 56trim 2871r at the moment and it makes around 190 odd rwkw and 680nm on 25psi.
I recently changed to a 3 1/2" exhaust and different airbox and am suffering from a little compressor surge now.
I have a different intake manifold ready to go on and a bigger intercooler with slightly larger piping.
I just a little worried now that I'm going to bugger up what was a decent little setup with more surge.
I was looking at a td05 map the other day and it seemed very broad, so it may be the go.

Marty